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1947. jexster - 12/4/2008 7:13:25 PM

U guyz are right though. Bereft of Concern, I tossed caution and brain to the wind and struck out in search of losers to torture in the Yahoo! Buzz threads...there are about 20-30 Concerned's left there still bashing Hussein and waiting for the Supreme Court to compel Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen etc

General reaction paraphrase: "I hate that asshole JohnMcCSF"

Which was the objective of course

1948. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/4/2008 7:29:29 PM

If it's a question of enthusiasm, jexster puts us all to shame; if it's a question of tolerating a joker in the deck, then it makes for a wilder game, I suppose, but it can indeed be annoying and tedious, I agree.

Jexster, pisses on everyone's shoes, sooner or later and he deserves a good wrap on the snout when he does it. Nevertheless, he keeps me in touch with a lot of ideas, events and points of view that I would miss if he weren't around.

Moreover, upon reflection of the times I've lurked in TPW, I still say good riddance to those self-inflated pedants and snobs who think they're superior to all others. Nor do I have the patience to ferret out all of their personal codes of communication that are incessantly meant to ascend Cal's pecking order.

They just don't have the humanity and the humility of those around here. I've never been impressed by over-informed careerists. I'll take courage, integrity and sincerity every time--and that's why I (compulsively) come back here, I suppose.

I may not always show it, but I respect and admire all of the posters here. It's also a game I know and I'm not interested in the ego games that CalGal invented and wallows in. She is mean and shallow, has always been mean and shallow and I hope that she, someday, lives to recognize it--for her own sake.

When everybody sings the same tune, the words become meaningless.


1949. arkymalarky - 12/4/2008 7:39:19 PM

I agree. We're all about dealing with the dynamic of this forum, and it's well worth the effort. I'm also thrilled to see some familiar folks back and hope they stick around.

I also meant yesterday to second Thoughtful's post. I'm a better thinker, communicator, and teacher (and community activist!) because of my participation here, and it is a constant resource for me.

1950. David Ehrenstein - 12/4/2008 7:48:00 PM

What'st this about? Concerned leaving? That's cause Obama won.

1951. Wombat - 12/4/2008 7:58:21 PM

David:

Didn't you hear? The Obama scoialist death squads took Concerned off for reeducation. If that doesn't work...the kugel.

1952. Wombat - 12/4/2008 7:58:52 PM

"socialist" of course.

1953. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 8:07:29 PM

Maybe concerned is the poor guy in this video? Or perhaps Jexter was caught in a Watergate-like caper in the GOP headquarters??

Gay or God's Plan?

1954. Wombat - 12/4/2008 8:25:52 PM

No that's what would have happened to Jex if McCain-Palin had won.

1955. iiibbb - 12/4/2008 9:38:22 PM

I still like The Mote.

I think the low membership may be due to the ergonomics of the thread structure more than the people here. Believe me this place is tame compared to many, but that may be as much due to the fact it's a small group.

The problem I've always had is if you drop a thread for a day or two, it's hard to find your place again. You can't search for posts, or track responses... every post has to be stand alone and fleeting. Newcomers probably have a horrible time getting oriented.

1956. iiibbb - 12/4/2008 9:41:38 PM

What I like most is that I feel like I can post whatever I want here. More-so than other boards.

I also don't feel like my posts have to be absolutely bulletproof.

I don't have a lot of compassion for Concerned these past few months. His posts were no more out of line than some of Jex's.

1957. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 10:04:04 PM

Me to re: freedom to post. Jex and concerned are assets to the Mote IMHO. It would be boring if everybody agreed with everybody else and the posts were all like research papers with appropriate citations or NYT op-eds. I like the wild, wild west, no holds barred format.

1958. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 10:14:13 PM

erratum: me too

1959. jexster - 12/4/2008 10:16:44 PM

The longest continuous thread on the Mote in 5 years?

Thanks to a picture of Guru Wonkers the Wuss floating in the Ganges on a recent family outing

I am the GREATISS

1960. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 10:18:52 PM

Yeah, without Jex we wouldn't need an Inferno thread!

1961. vonKreedon - 12/4/2008 10:43:26 PM

It's not a matter of disagreement, Jex and I agree on most issues, it's a matter of volume and content-to-noise ratio.

1962. vonKreedon - 12/4/2008 10:45:42 PM

It's not a matter of disagreement, Jex and I agree on most issues, it's a matter of volume and content-to-noise ratio.

1963. thoughtful - 12/4/2008 10:54:33 PM

talk about your noise!
:)

1964. thoughtful - 12/4/2008 10:57:06 PM

I agree with frustration that jay expressed a long time ago about jex when he created the lies thread

jex has posted lots of stuff, some of it useful, (some of it disgusting...and he is far from alone in making disgusting posts) but the most useful and interesting stuff he's posted is also the most rare...his own original analysis.

1965. wabbit - 12/4/2008 11:08:45 PM

Message # 1942 wonkers, quantity does not equal quality. Nobody doubts that Jexster could be a real asset to the Mote. It's just a shame he chooses not to be, and I see no reason the majority of us should have to work around him anymore. VK is right, it is not reasonable to be expected to scroll past Jexster all the time.

Now, if you can get AC to give us an 'ignore' feature…

1966. wabbit - 12/4/2008 11:13:28 PM

Message # 1956 I don't have a lot of compassion for Concerned these past few months. His posts were no more out of line than some of Jex's.

Not true. First, I've never seen concerned make from 15-30 posts from seconds to a couple minutes apart, most of which are insults or pointless sarcasm. That is trolling, like it or not, and it is the single most disruptive thing a poster can do. That is exactly what got cazart dumped when we first started. He decided to pitch a hissy fit for being fooled by a simple html trick. CalGal and I spent hours cleaning up after him. Jexster's spew has been tolerated for years because one time out of perhaps fifty, he actually has something to contribute to a discussion. If all he wants to do is post one-liners or links, he has his very own thread for that, but I'm not picking up after him in other threads. I'm tired of seeing a long string of posts that could easily have been combined into one more coherent post. That would show some consideration for the other members of the Mote, something Jexster is proud not to have. He's been spoiled and gotten selfish and rude. As someone pointed out last time we went through this (or maybe the time before, or the time before that, ad nauseum), if he was in your living room, he'd never be invited back.

And I would like to see one post where concerned started in about Jexster's nephew.

Whether or not you like concerned, he can dish it out with the best of them and he takes plenty, too. I don't have any sympathy for anyone who leaves because their wittle feewings got hurt. People like concerned don't leave this forum because they can't take criticism or disagreement, or because their candidate lost an election. They leave because they get frustrated trying to have a discussion around Jexster, who thinks he is being clever. And I take the bulk of the blame, having defended him and let him get away with it for so many years.

Several of us have spent too long trying to get Jexster to understand. He's been asked nicely too many times. It's old and nobody wants to hear it anymore. As arky said, much more eloquently than I could, Jexster's fate is up to him.

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