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1950. David Ehrenstein - 12/4/2008 7:48:00 PM What'st this about? Concerned leaving? That's cause Obama won. 1951. Wombat - 12/4/2008 7:58:21 PM David:
Didn't you hear? The Obama scoialist death squads took Concerned off for reeducation. If that doesn't work...the kugel. 1952. Wombat - 12/4/2008 7:58:52 PM "socialist" of course. 1953. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 8:07:29 PM Maybe concerned is the poor guy in this video? Or perhaps Jexter was caught in a Watergate-like caper in the GOP headquarters??
Gay or God's Plan? 1954. Wombat - 12/4/2008 8:25:52 PM No that's what would have happened to Jex if McCain-Palin had won. 1955. iiibbb - 12/4/2008 9:38:22 PM I still like The Mote.
I think the low membership may be due to the ergonomics of the thread structure more than the people here. Believe me this place is tame compared to many, but that may be as much due to the fact it's a small group.
The problem I've always had is if you drop a thread for a day or two, it's hard to find your place again. You can't search for posts, or track responses... every post has to be stand alone and fleeting. Newcomers probably have a horrible time getting oriented. 1956. iiibbb - 12/4/2008 9:41:38 PM What I like most is that I feel like I can post whatever I want here. More-so than other boards.
I also don't feel like my posts have to be absolutely bulletproof.
I don't have a lot of compassion for Concerned these past few months. His posts were no more out of line than some of Jex's. 1957. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 10:04:04 PM Me to re: freedom to post. Jex and concerned are assets to the Mote IMHO. It would be boring if everybody agreed with everybody else and the posts were all like research papers with appropriate citations or NYT op-eds. I like the wild, wild west, no holds barred format. 1958. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 10:14:13 PM erratum: me too 1959. jexster - 12/4/2008 10:16:44 PM The longest continuous thread on the Mote in 5 years?
Thanks to a picture of Guru Wonkers the Wuss floating in the Ganges on a recent family outing
I am the GREATISS 1960. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 10:18:52 PM Yeah, without Jex we wouldn't need an Inferno thread! 1961. vonKreedon - 12/4/2008 10:43:26 PM It's not a matter of disagreement, Jex and I agree on most issues, it's a matter of volume and content-to-noise ratio. 1962. vonKreedon - 12/4/2008 10:45:42 PM It's not a matter of disagreement, Jex and I agree on most issues, it's a matter of volume and content-to-noise ratio. 1963. thoughtful - 12/4/2008 10:54:33 PM talk about your noise!
:) 1964. thoughtful - 12/4/2008 10:57:06 PM I agree with frustration that jay expressed a long time ago about jex when he created the lies thread
jex has posted lots of stuff, some of it useful, (some of it disgusting...and he is far from alone in making disgusting posts) but the most useful and interesting stuff he's posted is also the most rare...his own original analysis.
1965. wabbit - 12/4/2008 11:08:45 PM Message # 1942 wonkers, quantity does not equal quality. Nobody doubts that Jexster could be a real asset to the Mote. It's just a shame he chooses not to be, and I see no reason the majority of us should have to work around him anymore. VK is right, it is not reasonable to be expected to scroll past Jexster all the time.
Now, if you can get AC to give us an 'ignore' feature… 1966. wabbit - 12/4/2008 11:13:28 PM Message # 1956 I don't have a lot of compassion for Concerned these past few months. His posts were no more out of line than some of Jex's.
Not true. First, I've never seen concerned make from 15-30 posts from seconds to a couple minutes apart, most of which are insults or pointless sarcasm. That is trolling, like it or not, and it is the single most disruptive thing a poster can do. That is exactly what got cazart dumped when we first started. He decided to pitch a hissy fit for being fooled by a simple html trick. CalGal and I spent hours cleaning up after him. Jexster's spew has been tolerated for years because one time out of perhaps fifty, he actually has something to contribute to a discussion. If all he wants to do is post one-liners or links, he has his very own thread for that, but I'm not picking up after him in other threads. I'm tired of seeing a long string of posts that could easily have been combined into one more coherent post. That would show some consideration for the other members of the Mote, something Jexster is proud not to have. He's been spoiled and gotten selfish and rude. As someone pointed out last time we went through this (or maybe the time before, or the time before that, ad nauseum), if he was in your living room, he'd never be invited back.
And I would like to see one post where concerned started in about Jexster's nephew.
Whether or not you like concerned, he can dish it out with the best of them and he takes plenty, too. I don't have any sympathy for anyone who leaves because their wittle feewings got hurt. People like concerned don't leave this forum because they can't take criticism or disagreement, or because their candidate lost an election. They leave because they get frustrated trying to have a discussion around Jexster, who thinks he is being clever. And I take the bulk of the blame, having defended him and let him get away with it for so many years.
Several of us have spent too long trying to get Jexster to understand. He's been asked nicely too many times. It's old and nobody wants to hear it anymore. As arky said, much more eloquently than I could, Jexster's fate is up to him. 1967. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 11:17:54 PM True, quantity does not equal quality. But not everyone's definition of quality is the same. I don't want to start a war with anyone, but the quality of many posts by many other than Jexter isn't the greatest either. I think we have a pretty good mix of banter, links to videos, cartoons, pictures or articles of interest along with occasional thoughtful analysis. We've never been a site devoted primarily to original analysis or fiction or commentary. Suggesting that we should try to be that is wishful thinking, in my opinion. 1968. wonkers2 - 12/4/2008 11:23:13 PM When I occasionally attempt analysis of a serious topic I usually don't get a response from anyone. When I do it's frequently from Jexter or occasionally thoughtful. Jex's comments are sarcastic or funny and thoughtful's are serious and thoughtful. I'm grateful to both for a response. 1969. wabbit - 12/4/2008 11:29:16 PM And who should be the arbiter of how much shit we need to take from Jexster to get that one nugget? You?
This isn't a pissing contest. Nobody here, not one person, can compare to Jexster for pure disruption and ignorance. Every post isn't expected to be a gem, but in his case it's 95% coal.
We've never been a site devoted primarily to original analysis or fiction or commentary. Suggesting that we should try to be that is wishful thinking, in my opinion.
Oh really? I guess you weren't around years ago, when the discussion level was pretty high and there was plenty of original fiction, poetry and commentary. Maybe you need to spend a few weeks in the archives. I don't doubt we will never be what we once were, but it's past time we stop putting up with idiocy.
Regardless, the fact that you like Jexster doesn't really make any difference to me. I like him too. So what. He doesn't get to continue to dictate what the rest of us have to tolerate from him. And neither do you. Jexster can choose to piss away in his own thread, and you can interact with him in there all day long. But he continues to spill over everywhere else, and that is going to stop.
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