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19835. arkymalarky - 7/25/2006 8:12:52 PM Dadgum. The state mandate for a masters is $5000 in AR. Of course we pay a lot less than TX, but our cost of living is generally lower than most anywhere, especially housing, and our retirement is very good.
WRT supplies, anything from graduation materials (caps and gowns, rings, invitations) to inservice training, text supplements, etc. In AR they recruit retiring teachers, especially for selling supplemental insurance, TSAs, etc. It's an already existing and stable network and there's room to work your way up within whatever area you go into. They like teachers, for obvious reasons, when they can get them. I don't know a lot about it, other than knowing teachers who've successfully changed careers into that area. 19836. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:13:49 PM somebody offered me a pile of cash and I thought, what the hell. May as well take it. 19837. arkymalarky - 7/25/2006 8:14:59 PM Hey Sakonige!!
I'm back in the software industry.
Now THAT'S good work if you can get it.
And education software is a huge business these days. 19838. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:17:54 PM hi, arky.
I never did get settled in as a teacher. I wanted to teach Indian kids, but I found out I had to establish myself with my own tribe before I could teach effectively in another. Then I found out my tribe is already overflowing with teachers. So I decided to try something else. Maybe start a small business.
But now I don't need to do that, either. It's back to the same old same old, except I'm making almost twice as much as I ever have. 19839. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:20:25 PM Software and engineering in general is a pain in the butt, literally. 19840. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:23:13 PM There is no job security in engineering.
You only have your job until the project is finished, then you have to find another one, either with the same company or another. You are constantly thinking about your resume. 19841. arkymalarky - 7/25/2006 8:23:55 PM Sounds like you're in a good spot to plan for a business.
Your tribe is fortunate. On a national level, Native American groups have come from around the country to some of the meetings I've gone to because they have similar situations--rural poverty and difficulty attracting and retaining teachers. 19842. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:24:10 PM anyway, I'll see you guys later.
I'm glad to see the website is still active. Thanks, Jay. 19843. wonkers2 - 7/25/2006 8:25:49 PM Sakonige, are you a fan of Jack Abramoff and Ralph Read? They are known for helping our Native American friends. 19844. arkymalarky - 7/25/2006 8:25:51 PM That's one thing about teaching that makes up for the low pay--job security, even in the worst times. I know if my school shuts down I will be able to get a job in another district, and have several positions to choose from. 19845. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:26:18 PM arky, I was surprised. Cherokees are very loyal to the NE OK region, so many of the college graduates don't move away. Many stay in the area as teachers. 19846. arkymalarky - 7/25/2006 8:26:30 PM See you, Sakonige! Don't be such a stranger! 19847. arkymalarky - 7/25/2006 8:27:26 PM The Cherokee seem to be very well organized, with good leadership. Is the woman (Mankiller?) still the chief? 19848. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:27:59 PM wonkers2, haha.
I gotta go. I want to take a look at the wretched headlines again before my lunch break is over.
I'll see you all later. 19849. sakonige - 7/25/2006 8:28:59 PM arky, no Wilma isn't chief any more. But we do have all kinds of political intrigue going on. We can talk later. 19850. judithathome - 7/25/2006 8:41:56 PM Hey, welcome back, Sako! Good to hear from you again! 19851. Jenerator - 7/26/2006 12:37:37 AM Hi Sakonige!
What are you going to do with all of that pastry knowledge?!
19852. sakonige - 7/26/2006 1:47:10 AM Hi, Jenerator!
I guess baking will remain a hobby for now. Getting a bit of training as a professional baker was a tremendous lot of fun, as well as a lot of hard work. I have a new appreciation for the work that goes on behind a restaurant's kitchen doors. I also developed a taste for the really good stuff. 19853. sakonige - 7/26/2006 1:55:32 AM Jenerator, how are your plans for opening your shop coming along?
I may still open one myself, but it will probably be five years down the road or more. I happened to fall into a position that is rapidly bringing my software skills back up to date. It's too good of an opportunity to pass up, or at least seems to be right now. :) 19857. arkymalarky - 7/26/2006 4:04:09 AM If you count yourself "colorful and interesting" and have something to contribute you think will improve the content, by all means do so.
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