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2619. Jenerator - 2/2/2005 5:05:41 PM She's hard to find in this area.
I always liked watching Julia Childs and the Two Fat Ladies. Talk about entertaining! 2620. wonkers2 - 2/2/2005 5:08:30 PM Justin Wilson, the Cajun chef was my favorite--"How ya'll are?" 2621. Jenerator - 2/2/2005 5:50:39 PM I have a school girl crush in Tyler Florence. Bobby Flay is pretty impressive, too. 2622. PelleNilsson - 2/2/2005 10:21:08 PM From the Archives - Report No. 2
I got some unexpected free time this afternoon so I dashed off to the microfiche repository.
First a word about geography. When Söderhamn was founded in 1620 it became a separate parish broken out of the much large surrounding parish of Söderala. Ljusne was part of Söderala until it became its own parish in the 1890's.
I found Per Sundgren in Ljusne in 1851. His real name was Lars Petter Sundgren. There can be no doubt that he is our man. He is listed as a sea captain and there is a note "Ship foundered. Dead at sea 22/2 1854". Furthermore, and as I mentioned, the Söderhamn Seamen's society has a captain L P Sundgren who is last recorded as taking charge of the ship Njord on 10/5 1851. There is no Apollo listed in Söderhamn, however. Considering your protestant background, wonkers, you will be glad to know that the parish priest judged Lars Petter to read well and to know his way around Luther's catechism. He received communion for the last time on 27/7 1851.
In 1851 the family consisted of Lars Petter born in Söderhamn 7/9 1822, his wife Johanna Dorothea Smeden born 22/5 1820 probably in Stockholm (there is an ink blot)and their children Christina born 12/10 1845, Lars Petter born 8/12 1847 and Johanna born 2/1 1850. The household also included Lars Petter's mother Brita-Stina Brändström born in 1797, no place recorded. Her deceased husband L[ars] Sundgren, also a sea captain, was born in Stockholm, no date provided.
In October 1852 the family applied for a residence certificate in Söderala (a form of ID) with the stated intention to move to Söderhamn. That did not materialize, however. They cannot be found in Söderhamn's parish records 1852-55. My guess is that they moved (because they disappear from Ljusne) but within Söderala parish. To search for them there without any further clue will be an overwhelming task.
Johanna Sundgren is another challenge. The record of emigrants is digitized and searcheable. There is no emigrant named Johanna Sundgren or Johanna Malm born in 1850.
The quest continues.
2623. ronski - 2/3/2005 12:01:08 AM Pelle,
He looks 80 to me. A good 80, but 80.
Wonkers,
Was he the one who said, "I gar - ran - tee it!"? 2624. judithathome - 2/3/2005 12:10:58 AM Yes, that was the man. Whooooo-EEEEEE. 2625. alistairconnor - 2/3/2005 1:44:58 PM Excellent Pelle!
Real-time history. 2626. Jenerator - 2/3/2005 7:11:37 PM Judith,
I think that Giadis is pretty and easy to watch, it's just that some of her stuff has tasted AWFUL - the salmon dish I made of hers being the worst of all time.
Her food is generally bland. I don't say that because I am American and normally Americanized Italian dishes are more saucy and more salted, I say it because her food has been pretty bad and pretty tasteless. 2627. thoughtful - 2/3/2005 8:11:50 PM she may not be able to cook, but she's gorgeous! 2628. thoughtful - 2/3/2005 8:13:08 PM the barefoot contessa drives me nuts, not only because she's so outsized, but she reminds me of ed macmahon...she has all these people over for dinner and she's the only one laughing...like yuck it up people...let's pretend we're having a good time for the camera! 2629. Jenerator - 2/3/2005 9:56:03 PM I thought it was more of a nervous laugh.
Steven Spielberg is one of her fans. 2630. marjoribanks - 2/4/2005 4:45:09 AM I kind of like Rachel Ray's unstoppably cheery attitude, though the accent always stops me a bit cold.
And then there are the FHM pictures, which could rate for or against her. You be the judge.
 2631. marjoribanks - 2/4/2005 4:51:44 AM Well, I wanted to post the rather startling photo of her wearing a black bikini top and licking a large chocolate ice.
But maybe you can look for it yourselves...
2632. thoughtful - 2/4/2005 3:34:38 PM Accent? What accent? 2633. Jenerator - 2/4/2005 4:01:15 PM thoughtful,
I was watching an episode of Everyday Italian when it first came out and the theme was something like 'Making a satisfying dinner with what's in your pantry.'
That struck a chord that day because our pantry was low and I desperately needed to go to the store, but didn't want to.
Anyway, her salmon recipe required that I cook some bacon and leave the fat for pan frying the salmon in(which I have done before and everyone always freaks out about at RI). Meanwhile, in a blender, she said that she takes one can of tuna in oil, about three anchovies and two tablespoons of mayo and a tablespoon of capers and blends them. I had all of these ingredients, but my gut told me that all of that mixed would smell and taste like an overly fishy tuna sandwich.
Giadis insisted that it wouldn't even taste like canned tuna, but rather a "fresh and tangy sauce that would be sure to please."
So, I went ahead with it all.
My husband walked in and his first reaction was, "Oh God, what is that smell?? What are you making?"
I said, "Look at the tv, I am making her salmon dish."
He just looked at me.
We both knew, but I proceeded anyway.
I poured the sauce on the salmon and served with super thin slices of lemon and a fresh sprig of dill.
I took the first bite and it tasted like overly fishy tuna sandwich with a pungent salmon.
We ate burgers that night.
A few weeks later I made a pasta dish of hers that was gross, too.
My mom thinks that Giadis' head is too big for her frame. She is pretty, but I don't think she's nearly the experienced Italian chef that Mario is.
2634. thoughtful - 2/4/2005 5:25:17 PM In my experience, much of liking or disliking the recipes a chef makes has to do with whether your tastes are like theirs or not. I find rachel ray recipes very tasty as is. I have a volstedt (sp?) cookbook for casseroles and another for soup/stew. Both are very good provided i at least double the herbs she calls for. Pierre Franey also had excellent taste when it comes to flavoring a meal.
But I have this heart healthy cookbook from the american heart assoc that at best can be described as bland...rarely use it any more. 2635. Macnas - 2/4/2005 6:21:40 PM My Missus uses a big Land o'Lakes cookbook sometimes.
I have to say I love traditional american cooking. Sour cream succotash is one of my very favourite side dishes. 2636. PelleNilsson - 2/4/2005 9:01:16 PM From the Archives - Report No. 3
This is turning out to be seriously interesting.
When I left off in the last report the Sundgrens had arranged the paperwork for moving from Ljusne in Söderala parish to Söderhamn but they hadn't showed up there. My guess was that they had moved within Söderala instead but with the parish having a population of about 6,500 the task of finding them would be overwhelming. In addition there is no Johanna Sundgren or Johanna Malm born in 1850 or thereabout listed as an emigrant to America. I thought I had come to a dead end.
But then, yesterday, I had an idea that in retrospect turned out fruitful. In the Söderala records the Sundgrens were listed as "emigrants" (to Söderhamn). If they had moved within the parish and if the parish priest was a conscientious fellow he would have recorded them as "immigrants" in order to make his books tally. And he did. In 1854 Johanna Dorothea, now listed as "The widow of sea captain L P Sundgren", shows up in a place called Bergsvik now with another child, Anders Leonard, born 19/2 1853. They must have stayed in Söderhamn for a while after all because the boy was baptized there. So there we have Johanna Dorothea, a widow at 34 with four children 1, 4, 7 and 9 years old. Bergsvik was totally dominated by a sawmill (still there) and they must have lived in premises owned by the mill but there are no details. Then, in 1855, they disappear again.
As I said, Söderala was a rather large parish and also dynamic due to the expanding forestry industry. The priest had an annotation system to keep track of internal migration. It took me some time to figure it out but eventually I found that the family had moved back to Ljusne. And here was another surprise: one more child, Maria Erika, born out of wedlock on 22/6 1855. The father is named as the tailor Erik Eriksson, described as the fiancé of Johanna Dorothea. This must have caused a minor scandal. Having children out of wedlock was a business for peasant girls working as maid servants, not for a widow with four children. In addition, the child must have been conceived in October-November 1854, eight months after the death of her husband and thus well within the mandatory year of mourning.
I had to break off at that point. But what happened next? Did Johanna Dorothea marry the tailor? When and under what name did her daughter Johanna emigrate to America, there to contribute to the gene pool that produced wonkers? Don't miss the next episode of this gripping family drama to be published soon! 2637. thoughtful - 2/4/2005 9:03:37 PM ...and what about Naomi??? 2638. PelleNilsson - 2/4/2005 9:48:40 PM ???
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