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27141. arkymalarky - 1/21/2013 1:14:27 AM Sorry No. That may happen more as you get older. I love the poem, but at heart Prufrock is a coward, too concerned about the opinions of others to take a chance on expressing the depth of understanding he believes he possesses. In the end, he resugns himself to his mental mediocrity without even sharing with the reader. So does he have that depth? Who knows. And with your friend obviously no one cares. Good to see he certainly wasn't worthy of you and his own shallowness helped you dodge a mess, it sounds like. 27142. Ms. No - 1/21/2013 1:55:53 AM Yeah, I came to that realization years ago. It was just shocking to see him last night. Such a sad, sad waste.
I feel like a bad person when I want to cut ties with old friends. While on the one hand I don't feel like I've changed, on the other, I feel like they've stagnated and I've continued to progress. I don't know how both can be true, but it feels that way.
Or maybe it's that so many of my friends seem to be getting old and set in their ways and because of the circumstances of my life, I'm still moving because I haven't got where I want to be, yet.
All the more motivation for me to get busy and get out of this town. It fossilizes people. 27143. judithathome - 1/21/2013 11:00:58 PM One thing that sets you apart is your ability to convey through writing...anything.
That post about the late night visit was beautifully written and I felt like it had happened to ME...you can write, woman!! 27144. Ms. No - 1/22/2013 4:58:58 AM Thanks, Judith. I used to write, but got out of the habit...or more like I never really formed a good habit, just took lazy advantage of being in situations where it was easy to write.
The last couple of years co-advising the Creative Writing Club at my school have been good for me. I had forgotten how much I liked to write and now I've got a regular time to do it each week.
Recently I attended my first grown-up writing group in more than 20 years. It was pretty cool. I'll definitely be going back. I like writing with my students, but I have to censor myself sometimes.
27145. bhelpuri - 1/22/2013 7:41:06 AM Yes, No, that is beautifully written. Do more! 27146. Ms. No - 1/24/2013 8:33:44 PM Thanks! We'll see what comes up. 27147. alistairconnor - 1/25/2013 5:47:43 PM hum hum, there's even a thread for it... yes I loved that story, No.
I've been thinking about writing, and I do enjoy it, and I'm just too damned undisciplined. I realised that my best writing has been done right here, live with no editing, in the posting window, with the (self-imposed) character limit partly determining the length of the episodes. Scary. 27148. PsychProf - 1/30/2013 12:53:17 PM For old school Fraysters, I hear from Bruce Brown now and then....he still sends out humor. 27149. bhelpuri - 2/3/2013 12:11:36 PM Nothing scary about it, Connor. This forum and its predecessor was where I learned (a) that I still wanted to be a writer, (b) that I could be good, and (c) I actually might have something to say that people might value. Nowadays - shocking but true - I am paid handsomely by word, but believe me take no greater pains than I ever did for you all at Le Mote.
27150. bhelpuri - 2/3/2013 12:13:36 PM Thinking back, probably some of the crucial writing that led me to today has been executed here for y'all. D'you appreciate?!
27151. bhelpuri - 2/3/2013 12:23:46 PM Still thinking back, t'was the audience that did it. Always had the idea that my painstaking word-counts here would be savoured by people who care. Now remembering the early days with Snod, Hashke, Ariel, so many extraordinary people...
Must note that Khan specifically provided much impetus for me in the early years, probably because I felt compelled to correct his waywardness! But where is he now? I sincerely cannot appreciate this disappearing for no good reason, after so much profitable exchange over so many years. Come back, asshole, all is forgiven! 27152. bhelpuri - 2/3/2013 12:35:56 PM I recall many, many years ago encountering this cast of characters in a Yahoo chatroom. Of course none of you has been in one, but at one time the Internet was still a novelty, Yahoo was a new corporation with potential, and Internet chat was a tantalyzing, and irresistible new development.
So old Uncle Bhel signed into Yahoo chat and found a 'Fray' chatroom at the top of the "current" list. Then entered into a huge discussion, with everyone distraught because 'AlexKhan' was quitting their online forum.
Of course he never did, but the relatively funny thing is I eventually found myself alone with our own Connor.
Said our guy, 'chat is not much, but the Fray is Literature'! Cue Masterpiece Theatre music, and my own curious entry into your company... 27153. bhelpuri - 2/3/2013 12:39:06 PM Also, Connor, you were thinking of a trip myways. Come, man! I have not had a Motard encounter for years now... 27154. arkymalarky - 2/3/2013 8:12:46 PM I didn't know Bruce Brown but I started the Fray at Dad's suggestion. He wasn't a regular but was here just enough for PE to call him an idiot. Probably two or three posts worth. Not realizing it was a rite of passage, he didn't stay but apparently thought I would enjoy it.
The writing I've done here has served me immensely and will continue to, whether I go back to using it wrt education issues or in some other capacity. It's such an enjoyable process when you're surrounded by good writers. The flame wars were tedious and stupid, but the vast majority of interaction was primo. 27155. arkymalarky - 2/3/2013 8:14:43 PM Come to the gathering in June Bhel. Everyone needs to experience rural Arkansas at least once. 27156. judithathome - 2/3/2013 8:49:33 PM Yes, just ask Frank! He saw his first giant bales of hay! 27157. arkymalarky - 2/3/2013 9:31:59 PM I wish Frank would pop in here 27158. bhelpuri - 2/4/2013 7:03:56 AM Arky, do wish I could come to the rural get-together, but am so far away with so many other things going on that simply not possible.
But hope y'all might consider an Asia Motard gathering! Do think about it. Have been expecting Connor to visit for years now... 27159. bhelpuri - 2/4/2013 7:10:45 AM BruceBrown is/was some kind of intelligence spook. Several Fraygrants were, at that early time, as Wabbit will be happy to tell you...
My best memory of the dude was entering one of those early chatrooms to find him in the course of being cyber-fellated by some anonymous handle. Of course I watched, and it was very vivid. Thus immediately learned about some of the new potentials of this medium! 27160. arkymalarky - 2/5/2013 1:29:15 AM When we retire Stan and I may do just that. We want to go to Korea and Thailand to see our exchange students' families and homes.
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