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27486. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 6:59:09 AM "Yawn. Fuck off."
This must be that "grownup" side of the forum that bhel was earlier extolling. 27487. bhelpuri - 7/1/2013 7:08:19 AM 27466. iiibbb - 7/1/2013 2:44:49 AM
they say strange things happen to people who have been to the end of the Internet... I thought I'd never see one
Bingo! We are experiencing the last of the trolls. 27488. judithathome - 7/1/2013 7:20:16 AM Probably not. 27489. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 7:23:42 AM You guys flatter yourselves if you think anyone would bother to come here to troll you. That's like a seventy-five-year-old woman thinking that young, cute bag boy at the grocery store is checking her out every time she buys groceries. 27490. bhelpuri - 7/1/2013 7:26:49 AM Boring. So very boring, troll. Now fuck off back to your cave! 27491. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 7:29:57 AM Tomorrow, my fine and civil and grownup Hindu, you'll get your wish.
But not before. 27492. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 7:33:10 AM And then you guys can go back to your little monthly chitchats.
Arky: "Put some gewgaws on my new hammock !"
Judith: Envious !"
Bhel: "I'm so happy to be part of a grownup forum."
Not much troll bait there. 27493. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 7:38:47 AM The use of the word mistake is idiotic on its face. There are a host of characteristics people are born with that "reduce fitness," whatever the hell that means. Your inability to grasp what constitutes an option wrt parenting a child and what doesn't leads me to wonder whether you have any concept of child development at all. Post something your blinkered perception didn't just intuit based on bupkus and we'll debate it. 27494. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 7:42:40 AM PM, I hate that your circuit is so narrow and undeveloped after all these years. Reading your posts is like entering a time warp. But that's really yourproblem, not ours. 27495. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 7:49:49 AM "Their condition is still a mistake, and it's wrong to fetishize it as some sort of valuable identity that needs to be protected and nurtured. So if in the future you have the ability to make a choice about that condition in future children, you should do the right thing by removing it. We don't need to perpetuate transgenders like they're a rare species."
Seriously, this is beyond stupid. What would be the reason for eliminating them any more than removing dyslexics or whatever other types make you squirm? If you want to be shocking and provocative, at least don't be so lazy about it that you don't even bother to construct a decent support for your pile of doo doo. On 27496. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 7:51:49 AM I do love the ridiculous false premises. People are just fetishizing all over the place when it comes to trans genders. Hahaha! 27497. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 7:54:14 AM And you do realize Downs Syndrome children are identified before birth, right? 27498. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 8:02:26 AM Wow. I guess he turned into a pumpkin. 27499. bhelpuri - 7/1/2013 8:13:21 AM No, chump is doing Internet research. It's bleakly hilarious how little has changed for PMS in what, a decade? 27500. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 8:14:32 AM Arky:
"The use of the word mistake is idiotic on its face. There are a host of characteristics people are born with that "reduce fitness," whatever the hell that means."
It's a common evolutionary term. Common. It refers to a reduced propensity in a particular group to reproduce.
For God's sakes, google it if you have to. Or just pretend you know what the hell I'm talking about.
Why is this important, and why do I call them mistakes? Because almost all characteristics which reduce fitness will disappear in a population over time. They will become increasingly rare and vanish.
But a few don't seem to. Like automobile accidents on a stretch of road, they crop up predictably every so often for various reasons. Disease. Bad combination of genes. An environmental accident. Or some combination of the above. Sometimes we know why; but often we don't.
In the old days, we usually didn't call the results of these "accidents" normal - even if we didn't understand why they were the way they were, and even if the condition wasn't that rare. It was sad day when you had a deaf baby. Or a chronically sick baby. Or a mentally handicapped baby. A parent was not happy with such normality. He didn't celebrate that his child might add to deaf culture.
"Your inability to grasp what constitutes an option wrt parenting a child and what doesn't leads me to wonder whether you have any concept of child development at all."
The argument is strictly a hypothetical one. In the future, all other things equal, if you're given a chance as a parent to change a particular rare condition like sexual orientation in your unborn child, one that will greatly affect the child's adult identity, do you do it?
Come on, this is not a hard question. 27501. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 8:28:54 AM "PM, I hate that your circuit is so narrow and undeveloped after all these years. Reading your posts is like entering a time warp. But that's really your problem, not ours."
I disagree, Arky. It's the precise opposite. You and others here have stood in place all these years, not learning anything new. This place is like entering a time warp. I guess sometimes the hammock is too deep and comfortable to crawl out of in the afternoon.
It's true I argue in a similar fashion as I once did, but I don't believe in many of the same things I believed five years ago, let alone over a decade ago when I was last here for any extended period of time. I'm learning different things, doing different things in life, and having fun.
I think you and bhel (and others) are stuck in an intellectual rut. Nothing seems to interest you any more. Your views have congealed and hardened as you've gotten older. You see nothing worth debating. Instead, you've formed a sort of online mutual admiration society.
There are worse tragedies. And tomorrow you'll be able to go back to admiring each other without my interference. 27502. arkymalarky - 7/1/2013 8:36:34 AM Wow. I guess he turned into a pumpkin. 27503. bhelpuri - 7/1/2013 8:40:35 AM Hm. Some inadvertent truth there (like a stopped clock is right every 12 hrs). Let's consider.
Speaking only for myself, it is true that heated exchange with online entities does not stir any more. There are many reasons, starting with the fact this kind of Internet structure has dated, but also including the fact that one grows up.
It is mere truth that I could not possibly give less of a shit about PMS opinions. That's because the viewpoint, the world view, is entirely uninteresting to me, and if anything has become less interesting over the years.
By contrast, Pseuder retains some fascination. A non-plastic human being who we all connected with in different ways even with I-constraints. I feel all nostalgic now! Come play, old boy, all is forgiven! 27504. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 8:46:39 AM "Seriously, this is beyond stupid. What would be the reason for eliminating them any more than removing dyslexics or whatever other types make you squirm?"
It's interesting that you should mention dyslexia, for just the other day I read some article which celebrated "dyslexic culture" or "society" as a positive thing. I can't find it now, but it's similar to this approach taken here.
This is an example of fetishizing a weakness or problem and then blaming the world for not accepting it in you. While that may be an appropriate individual response for someone who has the disease or problem, why is it an appropriate response for society to indulge them?
I've even heard of deaf people getting upset because of the possibility we might cure the condition in most deaf people. "What will happen to our culture !"
So the question remains: In the future, all other things equal, if you're given a chance as a parent to change or cure a particular rare condition like a high propensity to be a transgender, dyslexia, or deafness or in your unborn child, one that will greatly affect the child's adult identity, will you do it? 27505. PincherMartin - 7/1/2013 8:48:14 AM "By contrast, Pseuder retains some fascination. A non-plastic human being who we all connected with in different ways even with I-constraints. I feel all nostalgic now! Come play, old boy, all is forgiven!"
You don't get a shot at the champ, my boy, until you show you can play with the top contenders.
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