28012. arkymalarky - 6/13/2014 3:30:26 PM You're right Bhel. And the focus was always on the community, never on himself. There has been so much development online since the Fray started, and there are a lot of great discussions to be found in a lot of online sites, but I've never seen anything resembling the dynamic the Fray had. Mostly, whatever the format or rules or participants, to me either it's an ocean or a cesspool of fish eating other fish, and I just don't enjoy digging through the sludge or vast salty water looking for gold any more. I very much enjoy the Mote as long as this lasts or as each of us drops off the conveyer belt, as Dad calls it. A small close community of old friends is hard to grow, much less maintain, but I'm so glad I dropped into the Fray and Irv was the gracious host so many years ago, and that Alistair and Wabbit have kept a fire in the hearth for so long. Even with my discovery of room escape games a few years ago, it's still my favorite place to visit on the web. 28013. alIstaIrcOnnOr - 6/13/2014 3:43:03 PM So sad to hear about Irving. It's odd, even after having visited him at home in Bali, met his children etc, I still think of him as Irving. The big-hearted, larger than life guy, the community builder, the pioneer of this social network thing. My motivation in building this site was to continue the community he built, when Slate cut us loose (and fired him). 28014. theDiva - 6/13/2014 6:11:54 PM Great picture and good God, were any of us ever that young?
I understand that he was diagnosed with cancer in April. The funeral is tomorrow at his parents' home church in Washington state.
28015. arkymalarky - 6/13/2014 6:25:59 PM Diva! How have you been? We miss you! Thank you so much for coming in and sharing details of Irv's passing. I tried to find something online but didn't. 28016. theDiva - 6/13/2014 6:36:47 PM Arky! Yes, I had to do quite a bit of digging and figured you all would want an update.
Life is very, very good. How's by you? 28017. arkymalarky - 6/13/2014 6:41:30 PM Same here! Stan just retired, so he's great. How's your daughter doing? Mine is a school librarian and happily married to a great guy who's working on a PhD in nanotech. No grandkids yet. 28018. arkymalarky - 6/13/2014 6:43:07 PM I miss how we used to compare notes with her two girls. I think Moses was 13 when I started posting here. She'll be 30 her next birthday. 28019. arkymalarky - 6/13/2014 6:43:19 PM Our... 28020. arkymalarky - 6/13/2014 6:55:27 PM Your younger daughter must be on up in high school? 28021. judithathome - 6/13/2014 9:14:06 PM Hey, Diva...howzit? 28022. Ms. No - 6/13/2014 9:40:40 PM DIVA!!! Swak! 28023. arkymalarky - 6/14/2014 2:31:33 AM there's a little more info on the perfect world, and where he worked. 28024. Wombat - 6/14/2014 4:51:17 AM Acch. Irving was such a presence in the Fray. He will be missed. 28025. theDiva - 6/14/2014 4:33:18 PM Hey, back at y'all!
My daughters are doing well.
Gracie is 27, newly wed to an absolutely wonderful man she has known since she was in junior high. BFA Sweet Briar, MA Johns Hopkins, now in a fellowship at Georgetown. Her husband is a computer engineer. They live about an hour north.
Rosie is 13, and we're homeschooling. Miss Entrepreneur has been running her own business - dog walking, pet sitting, mother's helper - since last August.
I'm finishing a degree in accounting, and my husband is a saint.
28026. theDiva - 6/14/2014 4:34:42 PM I wasn't sure what the general feeling was these days about personally identifying info, so I didn't post as much here as I did over at TPW. 28027. arkymalarky - 6/14/2014 5:08:22 PM Oh how nice! How wonderful about Gracie! I knew she was a bit younger than Mose but couldn't remember exactly. And Rosie 13! I remember you posting that you were "preggers"! 28028. theDiva - 6/14/2014 5:22:25 PM Thanks! Oh, and you should know that 'cookienanabutteronit - RAISIN BRAN' 28029. theDiva - 6/14/2014 5:22:51 PM oops,
is part of our family lexicon. 28030. arkymalarky - 6/14/2014 5:51:54 PM Hahaha! Love it! 28031. arkymalarky - 6/15/2014 3:21:08 AM I've been really bummed about Irv but not able to put a bead on it, but looking through archives at endings and beginnings today, I found where Irv guaranteed we would meet in person. After one missed opportunity that I really hated, I had just in the last few months thought I might make it happen if I could arrange to go his way while seeing other New England friends or persuade him to take another trip south when other moties are here. You set things aside, subconsciously assuming they will happen, and then a point comes where the opportunity has forever passed. It really makes me sad. Time and distance make you forget people and then they are beyond reach. We had a RL friend like that who died of lung cancer. They're important to a dear time of your life, but time and distance make you forget and then it's over and you didn't get to tell them how highly you thought of them and what dear, fond memories you have of time spent with them. They're not your best daily friends, but they had a special role in your life history and a rare connection to you that few other people have.
And now I'm crying.
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