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28304. wonkers2 - 5/2/2006 10:46:00 PM Pope re-thinks condom ban, but just for spouses who are HIV positive. Wow! That represents real progress! Here. 28305. Adam Selene - 5/3/2006 1:49:54 AM I can see treating a zygote as a human... but physically seperate sperm and eggs? Wow. I'm surprised that the Pope doesn't order us to fuck all the time we're awake so that all possible humans are created. 28306. Adam Selene - 5/3/2006 2:13:41 PM Opus Dei - Catholic Cult or simple religious non-hypocricy?
With Da Vinci Code about to open, catch up on the reality first.
28307. jexster - 5/6/2006 11:13:40 PM Opus Dei - technically a "movement" ..not a cult because it is within the Church...
Fuck that - Nazism was a political movement in a constitutional republic ...
CULT 28308. jexster - 5/6/2006 11:21:57 PM The "argument" over whether or to what extent the Da Vinci Code has any basis whatsoever in fact definitively concluded with Ed Bradley's 60 Minutes report last Sunday on the "source" materials on which it was based.
Total fraud...a FRENCH fraud at that! 28309. jexster - 5/6/2006 11:30:26 PM Heterosexual elected Episcopal Bishop of Calif
The Episcopal Diocese of California on Saturday avoided widening a rift over gays in the global Anglican Communion by electing a heterosexual man as its next bishop.
More than 1,000 clergy and laypeople packed Grace Cathedral in San Francisco's tony Nob Hill neighborhood to elect the Rt. Rev. Mark Andrus as successor to longtime Bishop William Swing, who is retiring after 27 years.
Two openly gay men and one lesbian were among the seven candidates on the ballot.
No gay or lesbian cleric has been elected bishop since the consecration of Eugene Robinson in 2003 as bishop of New Hampshire threw the U.S. church and the worldwide family of 77 million Anglicans into turmoil.
"Your vote today remains a vote for inclusion and communion
-- of gay and lesbian people in their full lives as single or partnered people, of women, of all ethnic minorities, and all people," Andrus said by telephone over the cathedral's public address system to members after being told of his election. "My commitment to Jesus Christ's own mission of inclusion is resolute."
Rev. Andrus of Alabama was elected with 72 percent of the clergy vote and 55 percent of the lay vote. The Rev. Canon Eugene Sutton of Washington, D.C., who is also heterosexual, came in second, with 13 percent of the clergy vote and 33 percent of the lay vote.
'FOSTERING DIALOGUE'
When told a bishop had been elected, members of the diocese cheered, rose and applauded, and church bells rang out to commemorate the election.
Andrus, who has served as Bishop Suffragan in the Diocese of Alabama since 2001, is known for building bridges and reaching across different points of view, said John Kater, acting president of the Church Divinity School of the Pacific.
"He has the ability to take strong positions on social justice issues," Kater said. "He seems to be incredibly good at fostering dialogue across strong disagreements."
The roots of the U.S. Episcopal Church are as old as the country and eight of the first 14 presidents were Episcopalian. The church has long prided itself for including liberal and conservative ideologies.
28310. Adam Selene - 5/7/2006 12:01:21 AM jex - I didn't see the 60 minutes bit but I have done some research. Yes, pretty much everything about the priory in the last 100 years is phony.
But that doesn't say anything about the truth of what happened 2000 years ago... 28311. jexster - 5/7/2006 9:24:23 PM From today's SF Chron....
THANK YA JAYSUS!
Episcopalians avoid rift in picking bishop
Many had Expected Black Adulterer and Miscegenationista
- Matthai Chakko Kuruvila, Chronicle Religion Writer
Sunday, May 7, 2006
The Episcopal Diocese of California on Saturday elected the Rt. Rev. Mark Andrus to be its next bishop, tabling the question of whether the consecration of a Canon of the National Cathedral in Washington D.C, Colored Man married to a white woman (his third) would cleave the 220-year-old Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion of which it is a part. A ball-busting dyke candidate was also nixed.
28312. jexster - 5/7/2006 9:25:09 PM Yea - The DVC doesn't say ANYTHING 28313. jexster - 5/7/2006 9:26:17 PM 'Fraid UR stuck with whatever heresies they pumped you with in Babdiss sunday school...that and John Melanoma McCain. 28314. jexster - 5/7/2006 9:28:49 PM Priory of Sion: Fact or Bullshit?
60 Minutes
Face it...the ONLY reason the book or the movie make a fucking dime is because both play to the fetid modern imagination and Catholic bashing 28315. jexster - 5/7/2006 9:29:33 PM DVC and Passion of the Christ - two pieces of shit in my toilet 28316. Adam Selene - 5/7/2006 9:34:18 PM Come on Jex, tell us what you really think... 28317. jexster - 5/7/2006 9:41:31 PM P.S. - There wasn't a soul at Grace Cathedral yesterday who gave rat's ass about "cleavage"
A few however are unnaturally attracted to cleavage, but they will burn in the Fiery Sulphur Lake!
 28318. jexster - 5/10/2006 4:01:54 AM Sick......
House Bill Reins Military Funeral Protests
The House voted Tuesday to restrict demonstrations at military funerals, a measure aimed at a Kansas church group that has carried its anti-gay message to the last rites for those killed in Iraq.
"We will not allow the repugnant acts of a few to define who we are as Americans," said Veterans' Affairs Committee Chairman Steve Buyer, R-Ind., before the 408-3 vote on the "Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act." Buyer spoke at a news conference joined by motorcyclists who attend military funerals to shield families from the anti-gay protesters.
Protesters, led by the Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kan., claim that U.S. military deaths in Iraq are a sign of divine punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuals.
28319. Ulgine Barrows - 5/13/2006 5:07:54 AM Sick, yes.
Isn't this a lovely day to be caught in the rain 28320. Adam Selene - 5/13/2006 1:55:00 PM Who is that lovely lady with the cleavage? As Mal said on Firefly... "I guess I'm going to that special place...[in hell.]" 28321. jexster - 5/14/2006 6:10:31 AM The damnable heresy popularized in the Left Behind series of books is exposed for the fundamentalist abomination that it is in the History Channel's 2Part Series - The Anti-christ Zero Hour
Authentic faith cannot exist without real doubt and fundamentalists cannot tolerate that. So they retreat into a supernatural fantasy world of intolerance and ulitimate unbelief
It is plain for instance that the lynchpin of fundamentalist folderol - the Rapture - has no connection to their Apocalyptic "salvation" and everything to do with...well here, they can even comprehend the plain words of St Paul in Thessalonians so they read shit into it that plainly is not there
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, about those who have died, so that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have died. For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will by no means precede those who have died. For the Lord himself, with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call and with the sound of God’s trumpet, will descend from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air; and so we will be with the Lord for ever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:11-14 28322. Ulgine Barrows - 5/14/2006 9:03:41 AM Therefore encourage one another with these words.<,/i>
That's the part that doesn't get repeated correctly. 28323. Ulgine Barrows - 5/14/2006 9:04:13 AM
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