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28563. Jenerator - 8/14/2006 4:01:02 PM Anyone else hear about what they're teaching and chanting in the mosques of Iran right now? That Iran will nuke Israel soon and usher in the 12th Imam. Evidently, they're claiming that Iran HAS nuclear weapons and is planning on using them.
Armageddon, folks. 28564. judithathome - 8/14/2006 4:04:36 PM An article today in my paper was talking about the new generation of "street preacher"...evidently our downtown streets are graced with several.
There was a box on the page with lists...the one that was headed "Evangelical Christianity" had Baptists listed first followed by Assemblies of God, Church of Christ, Church of the Nazarene, Pentacostal, and many nondenominational churches.
The article also said this area (D/FW) has more than one million Evangelicals scattered around. Of those, 856,000 are Baptists. 28565. judithathome - 8/14/2006 4:05:40 PM Didn't mean to interrupt your screed, Jen, but I had that saved to copy over at Demonizing and I can't get in to WC. 28566. jexster - 8/17/2006 3:33:50 PM The Armageddon Report: CODE RED
Jen tell your pastor, tell Baylor U
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
A Message from the Prophet Hosea:
{I thought Bush was a bible boy!}
For they sow the wind,
and they shall reap the whirlwind.
The standing grain has no heads,
it shall yield no meal;
if it were to yield,
foreigners would devour it.
Israel is swallowed up;
now they are among the nations
as a useless vessel.
For they have gone up to Assyria,
a wild ass wandering alone;
...
The high places of Aven, the sin of Israel,
shall be destroyed.
Thorn and thistle shall grow up
on their altars.
They shall say to the mountains, Cover us,
and to the hills, Fall on us.
Judith..If Jenerator fails in her appearing, you're a Baylor Bear right?28567. judithathome - 8/17/2006 5:52:22 PM No, I am not. I'm not affiliated with any college or church or TV station in Texas. 28568. jexster - 8/17/2006 5:58:58 PM and U Texicans have a spotless rep for telling the truth 2
JAH's church here 28569. judithathome - 8/17/2006 7:20:15 PM Ha! That chick needs an remake. 28570. judithathome - 8/17/2006 7:20:34 PM an update OR a remake.... 28571. jexster - 8/17/2006 7:58:28 PM Judith at Home
at Cornerstone!
an 18,000 soul Church of Love in San Antone
Tejas has more of such tabernacles of faith than a dog has fleas 28572. jexster - 9/11/2006 7:05:28 PM They have indeed rejected (the Message): so they will know soon (enough) the truth of what they mocked at!
al-Qur'an 26:6
Adhan Makka
.mp328573. wonkers2 - 9/22/2006 3:05:00 PM Let's be fair. Not all priests are pedophiles. Some are thieves. 28574. Ulgine Barrows - 9/23/2006 6:37:29 AM 28563. Jenerator - 8/14/2006 4:01:02 PM
Anyone else hear about what they're teaching and chanting in the mosques of Iran right now? That Iran will nuke Israel soon and usher in the 12th Imam. Evidently, they're claiming that Iran HAS nuclear weapons and is planning on using them.
Armageddon, folks.
Yeah, let's kill them before they kill us, eh, Jenerator?
What is the difference between a Christian mission and an Islam jihad?
28575. judithathome - 9/23/2006 5:44:58 PM The Christian Crusades got better PR, that's the difference. 28576. Jenerator - 9/24/2006 5:10:22 AM That is a fascinating thought. What would have happened if the Turks had been stopped? Better yet, what would have happened if the Jews obeyed God when they entered Canaan? 28577. alistairConnor - 9/24/2006 10:28:31 AM What would have happened if the Turks had been stopped?
You mean, like if the Crusaders had allied with Byzantium instead of weakening Christendom by sacking Constantinople?
(The religious component of the Crusades is exagerated. They were mostly an opportunity for looting and empire-building.)
As historical conjectures go, this is a pretty far-fetched one. The Byzantine empire was economically and militarily weak, its territory constantly retreating. They were overcome by more vigorous newcomers, like the Arabs in Spain.
I don't get the bit about Jews obeying God. Well OK, this is a religion thread, not a history thread, so I suppose supernatural conjecture is allowed. 28578. alistairConnor - 9/24/2006 10:38:44 AM I have read about religious interference in the recent Swedish elections.
It appears that an extremist protestant sect, the Plymouth Brethren, have been spending millions to promote the right wing alliance that won a narrow victory last week :
The Brethren have paid for ads in some of Sweden's biggest newspapers, they have done direct marketing in mailboxes in many parts of Sweden, they have been leafleting and put flyers on cars in many places.
I wonder what Swedish electoral law says about this sort of activity.
This group has pulled the same stunt in a number of countries, there is an ongoing scandal about it in NZ because the right-wing party that they supported actually knew about their intended campaign beforehand, and there have been challenges to its legality.
But surely, religious groups have a right to lobby electors like any other special interest group? (they promote very conservative patriarchal values).
Well, yes, but :
* the money generally flows in from another country (into Sweden from England, it appears)
* the brethren are opposed to democracy, and their members are forbidden to vote.
Is this a scandal in Sweden? I don't know. Perhaps Pelle could fill us in? 28579. PelleNilsson - 9/24/2006 8:05:17 PM Total nonsense.
Are you into conspiracy theories these days, Alistair? Good luck. There are plenty to choose from. 28580. alistairConnor - 9/24/2006 9:28:17 PM That's a bit short, Pelle. I suspect this means that you've never heard about it.
Or are you denying that the Brethren backed the Swedish Alliance?
They are well-known for interfering in elections all over the world, whenever they feel they have a strategic opportunity. There is absolutely no ambiguity about it, they admit it themselves when they are caught at it. In NZ at the moment, the leader of the right wing party is, amazingly, refusing to distance himself from them, although they are getting bad press (they apparently set private investigators to dig up dirt on politicians of the left, and the Prime Minister's husband). A recent article from the NZ press.
They are also well-documented as having done the same in Australia (they love John Howard).
I'm not saying that religious groups should not be allowed to play politics. But when it's done covertly, by people who don't believe in democracy, then it's a potential problem. 28581. wonkers2 - 9/24/2006 9:46:17 PM Maybe he's a supporter?? 28582. PelleNilsson - 9/25/2006 8:19:17 AM This "news" originated with a blog and got blown up by one of the tabloids here. It never made its way into the mainstream media. The Brethren have about 400 members in Sweden, most of them in small rural places.
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