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28647. arkymalarky - 6/24/2015 1:25:50 PM

Hey Bhel!

The Fray was my first foray into online communication and the only one I really enjoyed. We had our 15th gathering this year and I got the idea from lemwalker, but I can't call up any timeline in my mind. The internet was new to my job and nonexistent at home, and if I recall we were one of the early schools to get internet. I ended up getting dial up at home just because of the Fray. That was back before any real graphics of any sort, much less my beloved flash room escape games. I also had the most laid back schedule I think I've ever had in my career. Lots of time to play on the Fray. Dad of course had internet, living in town, and he's the one who suggested I should check out the Fray. It never did really float his boat, but he thought I would like it. I need to look at archives. I know Mose was like 12 or 13 and we had just built our house. She's 30 now.

28648. arkymalarky - 6/24/2015 1:29:12 PM

Speaking of, the most beautiful flash escape game ever:



neutralxe.net/esc/elements_play.html



28649. vonKreedon - 6/24/2015 7:09:04 PM

The Fray was also my first online discussion experience and is also, along with the founding and first year or so of the Mote, my best such experiences by far.

28650. judithathome - 6/24/2015 8:27:58 PM

I agree w/VK; the best of times!

...now I have a forum wherein a lunatic has attacked my privacy in a very disturbing way.

I long for the days when the worst that happened was an insult from CalGal. ;-)

28651. bhelpuri - 6/25/2015 6:01:45 AM

Yes, there was a certain liberating, high-minded but anonymous convivality at the Fray (and early Mote) which we can now recognize as the first and perhaps best flush of the Internet's networking possibilities. In retrospect it can also be seen that the energetic naivete we all exhibited was inevitably doomed, that monetization would become the prevailing characteristic of web endeavours, and creepy surveillance sytems would soom pervade. It was a hell of a thrill while that pre-Google dawn lasted, however. I do not find it surprising that many individual posters familiar from that time have become notorious via the web, while others have chosen to disengage entirely.

28652. PsychProf - 6/25/2015 3:22:47 PM

The Fray and Random International made my life more interesting. Only the Fray gave me joy.

28653. arkymalarky - 6/25/2015 4:25:16 PM

Cal was Rizzo. The disturbed trolls out there are a true concern.

I have great memories and has made some of my best lifelong friends here, even ones I don't see anymore.
A lot of people are in other areas, and the internet has not done much for many people to gain them fame or success through forums. It's just too pervasive now, and far more specified. A general online community by nature becomes more insular, so it is hard to maintain a breadth and depth over time. But it's done a lot to help most of us in many other areas. It has been indispensable in helping me organize on the state and local level for rural education and gave me a lot of perspective that I didn't have before that helped me communicate more effectively in organizing. IOW the impact has been significant, but not direct point A to point B.

The most pleasant group and the most diverse that I know of now is on escape games 24. Some smart, mature, mostly self-moderating people and the focus is totally different, but working together from all over the world to find out where the screwdriver or key is is a pretty cool thing. A lot of the discussion forums out there are just so much more specified now. But they can be pretty fun. I've gotten a lot out of the ones on tech that I need, particularly with regard to android.
And there's so much brilliant shit:

vihart.com

And when I feel like pulling out my weedwhacker I check out what pe's doing.

28654. alistairconnor - 6/26/2015 4:28:23 PM

Bhel, that's exactly it. It was perhaps the golden age of the internet. Explain that to your grandchildren...

Hugs to all, and carry on...

28655. Ms. No - 6/26/2015 6:29:35 PM

Do you remember how strange people found you when they heard you talk about your online acquaintances as if they were real people? How many of your "real life" friends were sure you were going to be abducted and chopped into little pieces if you dared to actually meet any of those "online people" in person?

And now it's commonplace.

We were pioneers!!

28656. judithathome - 6/26/2015 8:06:41 PM

See: the first "gathering" at the Arky's..."Are you the internet freaks?" is a remark I will never forget!!

28657. arkymalarky - 6/26/2015 8:06:59 PM

I remember when I first met some of y'all for lunch in Dallas and Stan drove me because I'm a terrible driver and he was worried about some of the same things, and he had planned to stay in the car. He had such a blast, and had no idea that he was going to enjoy it so much. I'm sure Keoni had a similar experience that day.

28658. arkymalarky - 6/26/2015 8:07:49 PM

Ha-ha! First xpost here in a while.

28659. judithathome - 7/3/2015 7:37:27 PM

Happy July 4th, everyone...stay safe and remember: don't lean over your fireworks! Scariest Thing You'll See All Weekend

28660. arkymalarky - 7/3/2015 7:56:04 PM

They were out of bottle rockets and it's pouring rain. We like the Ned fireworks in CO but couldn't get up there in time this year.

28661. RickNelson - 7/4/2015 4:24:26 PM

Happy Weekend! Read back and saw news of FrayVader.

glad to see so many familiars.

My little family is doing Ok, our boys Golden Birthday was this past June. He's looking forward to 6th grade!

Drums were set up in the basement a month ago, nothing going yet. Thankful for a slow go for now. He can play some piano and viola, and the bells, base or snare drum a little. But, the video games, ohhhh they are the sneaky little devils.


The oldest is off in Sweden and back soon. She's doing fine.

I just learned about arthritis in the knee, but I'm too young yet and am putting it in its place.

My wife and I celebrated 31 yrs yesterday the 3rd.

Met here at Macalester College, and I was going to the U of M. We both ended up at Southern Ill. Univ at Carbondale and became Salukis.

Will check back soon.

Best wishes.

28662. arkymalarky - 7/4/2015 4:32:22 PM

RICK!!!

Please do check back in! And frequently!

Happy anniversary! Stan and I will celebrate our 32nd in October. So glad to hear how well your kids are doing. I remember when your little boy was born. Mose will be 31 in November. Unbelievable how quickly they grow. She's doing well.

28663. RickNelson - 7/4/2015 5:17:31 PM

Thanks arky. They do grow fast. I remember my first, I was so young, so naïve. Good days.

I like getting to do all the first over again. Especially over 19 yrs apart. It's amazing.

Glad all is well with you and yours!

28664. arkymalarky - 7/4/2015 5:22:17 PM

Ha-ha! I had forgotten how far apart. My cousin did the same thing. She's 56, as am I, and has a boy the age of yours. She also does muddy fun runs. I consider it an accomplishment if my fitbit shows 5000 steps in a day....

28665. RickNelson - 7/4/2015 5:31:41 PM

With the passing of FrayVader, a few memories spilled in. "Purple Mesh shorts" something I thought he must have worn while golfing?

When I first found the Fray, I didn't have a place to communicate my desires to focus world attention upon rapid deforestation in Sarawak, Borneo Malaysia. I did some fruitless posts, knowing there was no power. I did learn of "Bruno Manser" who sought to risk all to bring the clear cutting rampage going on. Bruno lived with the Penan. I safely married a Sarawakian, here in the U.S.. I learned of the problem in 1989 from my first visit.

In a vague way, I thought Irv, moving in circles connected to Macalester, Indonesia and worldly people, had an insight about what concerned me. Nothing went anywhere. Alistair sought to learn, and Marjori too, but it wasn't a big deal. It's all over the Sarawakian news now, so it's made it to the front of their media. Some day it might make it here? Oil Palm is getting attention for it being the main cause for rampant deforestation.

I've blogged almost zero, and I've written so extensively all over HuffPo, AlterNet, Kos, Mother Jones, and most recently rebuttals to radical racists on MSN News. I'm astounded at the blatant racism that rears hatred on that site.

How's Marjori?

28666. arkymalarky - 7/4/2015 5:38:39 PM

He's Bhel, so you can read him a few posts back. He seems to be doing great. Stan's Malaysian niece-in-law and nephew are visiting from FL right now. My brother is heavy into environmental issues and posts a lot elsewhere. I stay away from other discussion boards after spending 24-7 on rural éducation issues statewide for a number of years.

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