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28810. arkymalarky - 11/13/2006 3:23:00 AM That's cool, Jex! 28811. prolph - 11/13/2006 3:58:14 AM I've been listening to Richard Dawkins on cspan books tonight, Good idea for some of youse guys to read him too, (sorry couldn't resist}
28812. jexster - 11/14/2006 1:48:45 AM I know this won't seem earthshaking to most but the world of the Catholic Church operates on a different clock and uses a different language.
This is significant believe it or not
Bishops may alter language on gays
Baptism urged for kids of same-sex parents
While continuing to stress that same-sex relationships are immoral, America's Roman Catholic bishops may approve new guidelines this week that absolve gay Catholics of any obligation to try to alter their sexual orientation.
The guidelines for ministering to homosexuals, to be reviewed when bishops convene Monday in Baltimore for their annual fall meeting, also will urge clergy to baptize the adopted children of gay couples who agree to raise them Catholic. 28813. wonkers2 - 11/14/2006 4:05:18 AM They've still got a long way to go. 28814. jexster - 11/14/2006 4:21:21 AM It'll take 100-200 years. Different sense of time
Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts the Faith and Threatens America: An Evangelical's Lament (Hardcover)
28815. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/16/2006 7:04:03 PM 
28816. Ronski - 11/16/2006 9:34:52 PM NC Baptists Vote to Toss Out Gays and the Churches Who Love Them
"....homosexuality is the only sin that has its own advocacy group."
28817. wonkers2 - 11/16/2006 11:43:21 PM My impression is that homophobia has a much bigger advocacy group. 28818. wonkers2 - 11/19/2006 4:18:58 PM First Muslim Congressman 28819. wonkers2 - 11/21/2006 3:55:57 PM Science and Religion--Time to Take the Gloves Off 28820. judithathome - 11/22/2006 3:08:21 PM Colbert: Paleontology vs. Naileontology 28821. wonkers2 - 11/22/2006 4:47:33 PM Pretty funny! 28822. Jenerator - 11/25/2006 5:33:37 AM Women Asked to Leave Seminar
RIYADH, 22 November 2006 — A presenter from King Saud University at an international medical seminar at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital and Research Center caused a stir yesterday when he insisted that all women — including medical and media professionals — leave the room before he would enter the room to give his presentation. Initially some women expressed consternation at the request, but later relented and left the room so the doctor and orthodox man could give his presentation about Islam and the ethics of organ donation and end-of-life issues.
Prior to the presentation by Dr. Yousef Al-Ahmed, the audience was informed that the doctor would not be in the same room with women when he spoke about medical ethics.
...After Al-Ahmed persisted on his request that women not pollute his presentation with their presence, event coordinators began urging women to leave so the event could continue. Two women reporters from Saudi Arabian Television Channel One and Saudi satellite channel Al-Ekhabriya were also told to leave the hall.
28823. jexster - 11/26/2006 11:13:55 AM VIa TPM...how does that make Pastor Ted feel!
Focus on the Family's James Dobson is too busy to help cure disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard's gayness because the process could take years.
28824. Jenerator - 11/26/2006 6:32:10 PM Is it shocking that one of the busiest Christians can't shirk his responsibilities and tend to Haggard for 4 YEARS?
Besides, he has others already lined up to help. 28825. wonkers2 - 11/26/2006 8:10:11 PM It's true that Dobson is busy, but I'm not sure it's accurate to call him a Christian. 28826. judithathome - 11/26/2006 8:46:11 PM Door To Door Atheists Annoy Mormons 28827. jexster - 11/28/2006 10:58:43 PM [Reuters]
In his speech, Benedict said Christians and Muslims must continue an open dialogue because they believe in the same God and agree on the meaning and purpose of life.
Obviously Jen isn't really a Christian28828. jexster - 11/28/2006 11:35:05 PM Death to Israel (God)
Notes of a Palenstinian Bishop
‘War Without Boundaries’
by The Right Reverend Riah H. Abu El-Assal
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Bishop Riah is Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Jerusalem, which includes Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. Christians are a tiny fraction of the people of these countries, but deep rooted and enduring. What follows are excerpts from the Bishop’s letters.
July 26
For the past forty years we have been largely alone on this desert fighting a predator that not only has robbed us of all but a small piece of our historic homeland, but also threatens our traditions and holy sites. We are tired, weary, sick and wounded. We need your help.
The Right Reverend Riah H. Abu El-Assal, Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Jerusalem.
Little more than a week ago, we were focused on the plight of the Palestinian people. In Gaza, four and five generations have been victims of Israeli racism, hate crimes, terror, violence and murder. Garbage and sewage have created a likely outbreak of cholera as Israeli strategies create the collapse of infrastructures. There is no milk. Drinking water, food, and medicine are in serious short supply. Innocents are being killed and dying from lack of available emergency care. Children are paying the ultimate price.
This week, war broke out on the Lebanon-Israeli border (near Banyas where Jesus gave St. Peter the keys to heaven and earth). The Israeli government’s disproportionate reaction to provocation was consistent with their opportunistic responses in which they destroy their perceived enemy. The “situation” as it has come to be called, has deteriorated into a war without boundaries or limitations.
August 2
When I wrote to you last Friday, I could not have imagined that a second Qana Massacre in a decade would be carried out by the State of Israel, crushing at least [28] people. They suffocated under dirt and debris, virtually buried alive in the make-shift bomb shelter where they had had little water and food and no toilet.
And [in Gaza] . . . according to an Associated Press count, in the past one-month period, Israeli troops have killed 159 Palestinians since they started their relentless attacks on the Gaza Strip in response to the capture of Cpl. Gilad Shalit. I have seen the Caterpillar bulldozers and the orchards of oranges uprooted by them. I saw an apartment building where forty families were given forty minutes to leave before it was demolished into a pile of rubble.
And I have seen children playing near mountains of garbage which are the breeding ground to rats and the threat of cholera, a disease that I watched devastate India when I lived there.
August 7
I was scheduled to leave Tel Aviv on Swiss Air this afternoon. After asking me both relevant and non-relevant security questions, the young woman security officer concluded by questioning why I did not have an Israeli visa even though I was carrying an Israeli passport!
I saw her rushing to a supervisor. Approaching me he asked, “English or Hebrew?” I responded, “Please, Arabic.” Arabic is one of two official languages of the State of Israel and I knew that it was my right in this “oasis of democracy” to make that official request.
Because I refused to speak other than Arabic, because I informed them that I am an Arab-Palestinian-Christian, and because down deep I knew that their behavior was designed to humiliate me, I insisted in conversing with them in the language I master which is Arabic, my mother tongue. Mr. Vardi turned his back and turned toward me only to say, “You will not fly today!”
This happened to me, an Anglican Bishop with special identification
. . . . What do you imagine happens to others?
28829. wonkers2 - 11/29/2006 3:28:32 AM Big news! WalMart sales down because of its "liberal agenda." WalMart's Liberal Agenda
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