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28819. wonkers2 - 11/21/2006 3:55:57 PM Science and Religion--Time to Take the Gloves Off 28820. judithathome - 11/22/2006 3:08:21 PM Colbert: Paleontology vs. Naileontology 28821. wonkers2 - 11/22/2006 4:47:33 PM Pretty funny! 28822. Jenerator - 11/25/2006 5:33:37 AM Women Asked to Leave Seminar
RIYADH, 22 November 2006 — A presenter from King Saud University at an international medical seminar at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital and Research Center caused a stir yesterday when he insisted that all women — including medical and media professionals — leave the room before he would enter the room to give his presentation. Initially some women expressed consternation at the request, but later relented and left the room so the doctor and orthodox man could give his presentation about Islam and the ethics of organ donation and end-of-life issues.
Prior to the presentation by Dr. Yousef Al-Ahmed, the audience was informed that the doctor would not be in the same room with women when he spoke about medical ethics.
...After Al-Ahmed persisted on his request that women not pollute his presentation with their presence, event coordinators began urging women to leave so the event could continue. Two women reporters from Saudi Arabian Television Channel One and Saudi satellite channel Al-Ekhabriya were also told to leave the hall.
28823. jexster - 11/26/2006 11:13:55 AM VIa TPM...how does that make Pastor Ted feel!
Focus on the Family's James Dobson is too busy to help cure disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard's gayness because the process could take years.
28824. Jenerator - 11/26/2006 6:32:10 PM Is it shocking that one of the busiest Christians can't shirk his responsibilities and tend to Haggard for 4 YEARS?
Besides, he has others already lined up to help. 28825. wonkers2 - 11/26/2006 8:10:11 PM It's true that Dobson is busy, but I'm not sure it's accurate to call him a Christian. 28826. judithathome - 11/26/2006 8:46:11 PM Door To Door Atheists Annoy Mormons 28827. jexster - 11/28/2006 10:58:43 PM [Reuters]
In his speech, Benedict said Christians and Muslims must continue an open dialogue because they believe in the same God and agree on the meaning and purpose of life.
Obviously Jen isn't really a Christian28828. jexster - 11/28/2006 11:35:05 PM Death to Israel (God)
Notes of a Palenstinian Bishop
‘War Without Boundaries’
by The Right Reverend Riah H. Abu El-Assal
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Bishop Riah is Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Jerusalem, which includes Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. Christians are a tiny fraction of the people of these countries, but deep rooted and enduring. What follows are excerpts from the Bishop’s letters.
July 26
For the past forty years we have been largely alone on this desert fighting a predator that not only has robbed us of all but a small piece of our historic homeland, but also threatens our traditions and holy sites. We are tired, weary, sick and wounded. We need your help.
The Right Reverend Riah H. Abu El-Assal, Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Jerusalem.
Little more than a week ago, we were focused on the plight of the Palestinian people. In Gaza, four and five generations have been victims of Israeli racism, hate crimes, terror, violence and murder. Garbage and sewage have created a likely outbreak of cholera as Israeli strategies create the collapse of infrastructures. There is no milk. Drinking water, food, and medicine are in serious short supply. Innocents are being killed and dying from lack of available emergency care. Children are paying the ultimate price.
This week, war broke out on the Lebanon-Israeli border (near Banyas where Jesus gave St. Peter the keys to heaven and earth). The Israeli government’s disproportionate reaction to provocation was consistent with their opportunistic responses in which they destroy their perceived enemy. The “situation” as it has come to be called, has deteriorated into a war without boundaries or limitations.
August 2
When I wrote to you last Friday, I could not have imagined that a second Qana Massacre in a decade would be carried out by the State of Israel, crushing at least [28] people. They suffocated under dirt and debris, virtually buried alive in the make-shift bomb shelter where they had had little water and food and no toilet.
And [in Gaza] . . . according to an Associated Press count, in the past one-month period, Israeli troops have killed 159 Palestinians since they started their relentless attacks on the Gaza Strip in response to the capture of Cpl. Gilad Shalit. I have seen the Caterpillar bulldozers and the orchards of oranges uprooted by them. I saw an apartment building where forty families were given forty minutes to leave before it was demolished into a pile of rubble.
And I have seen children playing near mountains of garbage which are the breeding ground to rats and the threat of cholera, a disease that I watched devastate India when I lived there.
August 7
I was scheduled to leave Tel Aviv on Swiss Air this afternoon. After asking me both relevant and non-relevant security questions, the young woman security officer concluded by questioning why I did not have an Israeli visa even though I was carrying an Israeli passport!
I saw her rushing to a supervisor. Approaching me he asked, “English or Hebrew?” I responded, “Please, Arabic.” Arabic is one of two official languages of the State of Israel and I knew that it was my right in this “oasis of democracy” to make that official request.
Because I refused to speak other than Arabic, because I informed them that I am an Arab-Palestinian-Christian, and because down deep I knew that their behavior was designed to humiliate me, I insisted in conversing with them in the language I master which is Arabic, my mother tongue. Mr. Vardi turned his back and turned toward me only to say, “You will not fly today!”
This happened to me, an Anglican Bishop with special identification
. . . . What do you imagine happens to others?
28829. wonkers2 - 11/29/2006 3:28:32 AM Big news! WalMart sales down because of its "liberal agenda." WalMart's Liberal Agenda 28830. jexster - 11/29/2006 4:17:25 AM Benedict XVI to Visit Blue Mosque
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28832. thoughtful - 11/30/2006 7:01:05 PM Poor walmart...I guess they don't cut it with the liberals either: See Wake Up Wal-mart 28833. jexster - 11/30/2006 8:43:11 PM Benedict and Grand Mufti of Istanbul at Blue Mosque
 28834. jexster - 11/30/2006 8:56:03 PM ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) -- Pope Benedict XVI stood in silent meditation in one of Turkey's most famous mosques Thursday in a dramatic gesture of outreach to Muslims after outrage from the pontiff's remarks linking violence and the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.
The pope, accompanied by an Islamic cleric, bowed his head for nearly a minute inside the 17th century Blue Mosque in only the second papal visit to a Muslim place of worship. Benedict's predecessor, John Paul II, visited a mosque in Syria in 2001.
The mosque visit was added to Benedict's schedule as a "sign of respect" during his first papal trip to a Muslim nation, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a Vatican spokesman, said last week.
The pope removed his shoes before entering the carpeted expanse of the mosque, which is officially known as the Sultan Ahmet Mosque after the Ottoman sultan Ahmet I, who ordered its construction. But it's widely called the Blue Mosque after its elaborate blue tiles.
28835. jexster - 11/30/2006 9:19:18 PM The heretics of the Church of God in Bush should now understand a fundamental fact of Christian-Muslim relations, that is that the Catholic Church is not an ally but an adversary in their Crusade against Islam.
Whatever problems Catholic Christians may have with violent extremists, they do not extend to the Church's understanding of Islam. Benedict is not an enlistee in the Clash of Civilizations they wish to foment for he sees Islam an an ally in the clash that is important to him - that between belief and unbelief.
Der Spiegel:From Foe to Friend in Turkey
Before he arrived, the Turks hated him. Now that Pope Benedict XVI is in Turkey though, he has made 73 million new friends. Not only has he sought to heal the Christian-Muslim divide. But he also supports Turkish EU membership at a time when the country really needs an ally.
28836. thoughtful - 11/30/2006 10:35:32 PM I hadn't seen this stat before this a.m. but I found it most telling:
Beliefnet's poll showed that nearly 60 percent of non-evangelicals have a more negative view of Jesus because of Christian political involvement; almost 40 percent believe that George W. Bush's faith has had a negative impact on his presidency.
If evangelicals want to sell their religion to nonbelievers, they'd better come up with another way.
Who was it who said that mixing politics and religion diminishes both? 28837. jexster - 12/1/2006 6:14:06 PM Looney Jew Alert (via TPM)
Outrages come a dime a dozen these days. But here's one that deserves a few moments of attention. Dennis Prager, the Jewish and increasingly looney radio talk show host, says that Keith Ellison, the country's first elected Muslim congressman, shouldn't be in Congress if he won't take the oath of office on the Christian Bible. Click here for more details. 28838. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/1/2006 8:03:12 PM This is a wonderful video of Fox (What's- New-In-The-Toilet) News trying to stir up religious shit for the right-wing-nutz–but it backfires–Malik Shabazz is two smart for 'em . . .
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