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28822. iiibbb - 4/4/2016 9:19:28 PM

I'll make any of you a Mod

28823. wabbit - 5/10/2016 10:47:57 PM

Happy belated Mother's Day to all Mote Moms!

28824. wabbit - 5/10/2016 10:55:34 PM

iiibbb, I signed up. We'll try to get the Mote stabilized, but good to have an alternative. I wasn't able to leave a comment though, how does the place work?

28825. arkymalarky - 5/10/2016 11:37:24 PM

How are you Wabbit!?

28826. iiibbb - 5/12/2016 5:41:04 PM

Hey, it worked.... what's up people?

I'm still hanging out on Disqus, and found the (unoffical) The Atlantic board--- it's not the one that you get to from the magazine itself... that one is a shithole.

The alternate Atlantic people there are pretty nice and civil. Reminds me of the Mote when I started here. They've got a good setup. I some of you hate the Discus interface and have other playgrounds but there you have it.

I'm there as "ystava".

I'll still come here, but I still have had a lot of trouble connecting.

28827. judithathome - 5/12/2016 10:47:32 PM

Many years ago, I was in charge of the Atlantic board TV and Movie section and gradually had the responsiblity of the entire forum...then they changed their format and requirments and we all left and went to Able Minds...my forum at AMs was entitled Atlantic Refugees and is now called Talkalot...new people coming in thought "Atlantic Refuges" meant it was a Canadian Forum...ha!

Anyhow, though it is an annual $10 fee for participation, it's a very good site...as I said before, I'd be happy to pay the "fee" for a forum listing and would pay annual dues for anyone wishing to come there....

I couldn't figure out that Discus thing...I'm not on Twitter or Facebook and it just seemed confusing to me...but I'm not that known for being computer savvy. ;-)

28828. judithathome - 5/12/2016 10:53:04 PM

Sorry..is it Disqus or Discus?

Have to say, the AbleMinds forum is very up-to-date and has HTML shortcuts and easily accessible ways to link to articles and you can post pictures, articles, anything without having to type in antiquated codes....

28829. judithathome - 5/12/2016 10:56:08 PM

This is link to my forum at Ableminds: Talkalot

28830. judithathome - 5/12/2016 10:58:27 PM

And see? I left out an "a"...at AM, I could've corrected that after it posted! Ha!

28831. judithathome - 5/12/2016 11:45:13 PM

Promise to stop promoting AbleMinds...this is it for me. Check it out or not...whatever.

28832. arkymalarky - 5/14/2016 11:12:09 AM

After I get back from CO I'm going to dig into all that. Just crazy busy until then, so I just post short bits here ehen it lets me.

28833. arkymalarky - 5/14/2016 11:13:44 AM

I woke up and can't get back to sleep for thinking of all the crap I have going on between now and July.

28834. Ms. No - 5/15/2016 4:18:58 AM

OhmygoshImsohappytogetinIwanttosayeverythingallatonce!!!

Okay, sorry. That's just obnoxious to look at.

Brand new couch delivered today and I'm thrilled but don't want to sit on it. How crazy is that? I'll end up covering it in plastic like one of those scary old Jersey ladies.

Still haven't finished painting the living room -- it's about 1/3 of the way done. I keep debating whether to move the bookcase or not.

And none of this is very interesting. I'm so used to not being able to get in that I didn't prepare anything to talk about.

I'll check out both places mentioned!

28835. Ms. No - 5/15/2016 5:21:02 AM

Juditha,

I'm registered at Able Minds and just waiting for them to clear me to post after my payment.

I was all hopped up to ask what kind of fact-checking any of the offended pundits did on the Facebook story. Its the kind of thing that conservatives want to be true so they can cry about how the liberal media (is Facebook considered media?) is persecuting them and trying to silence their shrill braying.

It just doesn't sound very plausible to me. Not because no one would want to do it, but because it isn't feasible that there are sufficient Facebook employees who can regularly access and re-write the algorithms that tailors users' "trending" feeds to weed out specific news stories on a constant basis.

28836. Trillium - 5/15/2016 1:29:09 PM

"Is Facebook considered media?"

Facebook would be considered media by most people who have followed uprisings around the world such as Ukraine and Egypt.

The role of Facebook in the "Arab Spring" was covered in US newspapers of the time. One book source to look into would be The Awakening of Muslim Democracy by Jocelyne Cesari which claims "In Tunisia, Facebook is considered the number one source of news. Fifty-two percent of the population lists Facebook among their top 3 news sources..."

28837. Trillium - 5/15/2016 1:31:59 PM

Youtube has also played a strong political role around the world. There are many Youtube videos related to assaults on female journalists in Cairo's Tahrir Square (not only Lara Logan), but also in other places around the globe.

Youtube refuses Egypt's request to remove footage of tahrir square sexual assault

There are (relatively young) editors who make decisions about what gets taken down, and what stays up

28838. Trillium - 5/15/2016 1:39:56 PM

YouTube *did* take down videos of Chinese police rounding up and shooting Uighur protestors in Xinjiang (Uighur activists who had recently been involved in bloodshed)...

There is one video in particular I can't find anymore, and I vividly remember seeing it. I understand why the Chinese wanted it taken down.

Cyberwar and Information Warfare edited by Daniel Ventre

28839. Ms. No - 5/16/2016 12:52:31 AM

I think it's a mistake to equate social media with news media even though social media often links to or forwards news. Facebook does not produce or report news, Facebook posters do. There's no accountability for truthfulness or verifiable sources.

28840. judithathome - 5/16/2016 8:25:28 PM

MsNo...send me an email with the user name you registered under and I'll get in touch with Mark, the owner, and see what the hold-up is...

28841. Trillium - 5/16/2016 9:55:38 PM

The Facebook commotion bubbled up with an article from Gizmodo

Gizmodo: "We routinely suppressed..."

"Several former Facebook “news curators,” as they were known internally, also told Gizmodo that they were instructed to artificially “inject” selected stories into the trending news module, even if they weren’t popular enough to warrant inclusion—or in some cases weren’t trending at all. The former curators, all of whom worked as contractors, also said they were directed not to include news about Facebook itself in the trending module.

"In other words, Facebook’s news section operates like a traditional newsroom, reflecting the biases of its workers and the institutional imperatives of the corporation. Imposing human editorial values onto the lists of topics an algorithm spits out is by no means a bad thing—but it is in stark contrast to the company’s claims that the trending module simply lists “topics that have recently become popular on Facebook.”

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