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28832. thoughtful - 11/30/2006 7:01:05 PM Poor walmart...I guess they don't cut it with the liberals either: See Wake Up Wal-mart 28833. jexster - 11/30/2006 8:43:11 PM Benedict and Grand Mufti of Istanbul at Blue Mosque
 28834. jexster - 11/30/2006 8:56:03 PM ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) -- Pope Benedict XVI stood in silent meditation in one of Turkey's most famous mosques Thursday in a dramatic gesture of outreach to Muslims after outrage from the pontiff's remarks linking violence and the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.
The pope, accompanied by an Islamic cleric, bowed his head for nearly a minute inside the 17th century Blue Mosque in only the second papal visit to a Muslim place of worship. Benedict's predecessor, John Paul II, visited a mosque in Syria in 2001.
The mosque visit was added to Benedict's schedule as a "sign of respect" during his first papal trip to a Muslim nation, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a Vatican spokesman, said last week.
The pope removed his shoes before entering the carpeted expanse of the mosque, which is officially known as the Sultan Ahmet Mosque after the Ottoman sultan Ahmet I, who ordered its construction. But it's widely called the Blue Mosque after its elaborate blue tiles.
28835. jexster - 11/30/2006 9:19:18 PM The heretics of the Church of God in Bush should now understand a fundamental fact of Christian-Muslim relations, that is that the Catholic Church is not an ally but an adversary in their Crusade against Islam.
Whatever problems Catholic Christians may have with violent extremists, they do not extend to the Church's understanding of Islam. Benedict is not an enlistee in the Clash of Civilizations they wish to foment for he sees Islam an an ally in the clash that is important to him - that between belief and unbelief.
Der Spiegel:From Foe to Friend in Turkey
Before he arrived, the Turks hated him. Now that Pope Benedict XVI is in Turkey though, he has made 73 million new friends. Not only has he sought to heal the Christian-Muslim divide. But he also supports Turkish EU membership at a time when the country really needs an ally.
28836. thoughtful - 11/30/2006 10:35:32 PM I hadn't seen this stat before this a.m. but I found it most telling:
Beliefnet's poll showed that nearly 60 percent of non-evangelicals have a more negative view of Jesus because of Christian political involvement; almost 40 percent believe that George W. Bush's faith has had a negative impact on his presidency.
If evangelicals want to sell their religion to nonbelievers, they'd better come up with another way.
Who was it who said that mixing politics and religion diminishes both? 28837. jexster - 12/1/2006 6:14:06 PM Looney Jew Alert (via TPM)
Outrages come a dime a dozen these days. But here's one that deserves a few moments of attention. Dennis Prager, the Jewish and increasingly looney radio talk show host, says that Keith Ellison, the country's first elected Muslim congressman, shouldn't be in Congress if he won't take the oath of office on the Christian Bible. Click here for more details. 28838. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/1/2006 8:03:12 PM This is a wonderful video of Fox (What's- New-In-The-Toilet) News trying to stir up religious shit for the right-wing-nutz–but it backfires–Malik Shabazz is two smart for 'em . . .
28839. jexster - 12/2/2006 1:22:56 AM Iraq and the Christian Conscience
"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied."
- Matthew 5:6
"Put not your faith in princes and sons of men, in whom there is no salvation."
- Psalm 146:3
28840. jexster - 12/12/2006 1:35:23 AM If you saw the Military Channel's special on the Arkansas Natl Guard units in Iraq, you saw evidence of this
Group seeks probe of evangelical military video
A watchdog group that promotes religious freedom in the U.S. military accused senior officers on Monday using their rank and influence to coerce soldiers and airmen into adopting evangelical Christianity.
Such proselytizing, according to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, has created a core of "radical" Christians within the U.S. armed forces and Pentagon who punish those who do not accept evangelical beliefs by stalling their careers.
"It's egregious beyond the pale," said Mikey Weinstein, president and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. "We apparently have a radicalized, evangelical Christian Pentagon within the rest of the Pentagon."
28841. judithathome - 12/12/2006 1:37:05 AM I'm not suprised. 28842. jexster - 12/12/2006 3:13:41 AM 
28843. jexster - 12/14/2006 2:49:57 AM TOP SECRET
Judith would LOVE this for Christmas
 28844. wonkers2 - 12/18/2006 6:59:50 AM Don't let the door hit 'em in the ass on the way out! 28845. judithathome - 12/18/2006 11:42:11 PM A Very Ecumenical Christmas 28846. alistairConnor - 12/23/2006 9:43:46 PM Religious maturity in the UK
Most people have no personal faith, the poll shows, with only 33% of those questioned describing themselves as "a religious person". A clear majority, 63%, say that they are not religious - including more than half of those who describe themselves as Christian.
I heard some numbers on the radio from a French opinion poll : 27% believe that Jesus is the son of God, i.e. are Christian. 17% see Jesus as a prophet (since that's higher than the proportion of Moslems, that shows an encouragingly high percentage of Christian heretics). Of the rest, half think Jesus was an ordinary man, the other half think he never existed.
Merry Christmas all the same!
28847. jexster - 12/23/2006 10:05:22 PM O come, O come, Emmanuel,
and ransom captive Israel,
that mourns in lonely exile here
until the Son of God appear.
Refrain:
Rejoice! Rejoice!
Emmanuel shall come to thee, O Israel 28848. jexster - 12/23/2006 10:06:24 PM toys pagan toys 28849. jexster - 12/23/2006 10:34:22 PM Gaudete heathen....
From Wikipedia
Gaudete" ("Rejoice") is a sacred Christmas carol, composed sometime in the 16th century, most likely in reference to Gaudete Sunday, the third Sunday in Advent. It is celebrated in the Roman Catholic Church falling between December 11 and December 17 inclusive. The song was published in the Piae Cantiones, a collection of Finnish/Swedish sacred songs published in 1582. No music is given for the verses, but the standard tune comes from older liturgical books.
The text, in Latin, is a typical song of praise, probably stemming from the Middle Ages. It follows the standard pattern for the time - a uniform series of four-line stanzas, each preceded by a two-line refrain (in the early English carol this was known as the burden). Carols could be on any subject, but typically they were about the Virgin Mary or the Saints of Christmas.
The complete text of the Gaudete, including the refrain:
Gaudete, gaudete! Christus est natus
Ex Maria virgine, gaudete!
Tempus adest gratiae
Hoc quod optibamus,
Carmina laetitiae
Devote redamus.
Deus homo factus est
Natura mirante,
Mundus renovatus est
A Christo regnante.
Ezechielis porta
Clausa pertransitur,
Unde lux est orta
Salus invenitur.
Ergo nostra cantio,
Psallat iam in lustro;
Benedicat Domino:
Salus Regi nostro.
Translating as :
Rejoice, rejoice! Christ is born
Of the Virgin Mary, rejoice!
It is now the time of grace
That we have desired;
Let us devoutly return
Songs of rejoicing.
God has become man,
And nature marvels;
The world has been renewed
By Christ who is King.
The closed gate of Ezechiel
Has been passed through;
Hence the light rises
Salvation is found.
Therefore let our assembly
Now sing a hymn of purification
Let it give praise to the Lord:
greetings to our King.
28850. jexster - 12/25/2006 6:59:03 PM Hodie Christus natus est:
Hodie Salvator apparuit:
Hodie in terra canunt Angeli,
laetantur Archangeli
Hodie exsultant justi, dicentes:
Gloria in excelsis Deo.
Alleluia.
Today Christ is born:
Today the Savior appeared:
Today on Earth the Angels sing,
Archangels rejoice:
Today the righteous rejoice, saying:
Glory to God in the highest.
Alleluia.
28851. jexster - 1/3/2007 9:47:00 PM Ford Funerals..Entrance Anthems
The Burial of the Dead:
Rite Two
I am Resurrection and I am Life, says the Lord.
Whoever has faith in me shall have life,
even though he die.
And everyone who has life,
and has committed himself to me in faith,
shall not die for ever.
As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives
and that at the last he will stand upon the earth.
After my awaking, he will raise me up;
and in my body I shall see God.
I myself shall see, and my eyes behold him
who is my friend and not a stranger.
For none of us has life in himself,
and none becomes his own master when he dies.
For if we have life, we are alive in the Lord,
and if we die, we die in the Lord.
So, then, whether we live or die,
we are the Lord's possession.
Happy from now on
are those who die in the Lord!
So it is, says the Spirit,
for they rest from their labors.
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