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29036. judithathome - 3/26/2008 7:35:05 PM I was just listening to an interview with this reporter about Tibet...it was on NPR, Terry Gross' Fresh Air show; she is always so good. It was rocking along and good questions were being asked and answered and I was really enjoying it. She and the reporter were talking about the Dahli Lama and I stepped out to retrieve the mail from the mail box; I came back in and heard this third person...on tape, as it turned out, not in the studio or on the phone.
This guy is some high-up Christian mucketymuck and he is telling about how when he met the Dahli Lama in person, he conversed with him for a bit about the plight of Tibet and then when he was just about to leave, he confided in the Dahli Lama that though he was a good man and doing a lot for his people, he didn't really know anything about religion because he hadn't accepted Jesus Christ as his savior and the one true God and that he would never be saved and go to heaven unless he did.
I was floored. And it made me realize that THIS is what chaps me so much about Christians...it's all fine and good for them have their faith and to believe and to one day meet up in their heaven for eternity. But they shouldn't presume to denigrate another man's faith simply because he doesn't believe as they do. It's not faith...it's not the truth...it is arrogance. And arrogance is a sin.
29037. thoughtful - 3/26/2008 8:30:06 PM Hah! Have you ever seen the show about wife swapping? I saw it once and in it, they swapped the wives of two xtian families for 2 weeks. The first week the wife is supposed to live by the new family's rules and the 2nd week the family is supposed to live by the new wife's rules. What was interesting was that, though they were both xtian families, one was very fundamentalist evangelical, and the other was more liberal and the father had a couple of degrees in theology. Well the fundamentalist wife had the well-educated liberal father in tears because she was so hurtful to him about, yeah he knows a lot of book learning, but he knows nothing about true xtian ways. She also had no compassion or guilt or any sense of responsibility for having hurt him so badly. Onward xtian soldier.
In the fundamentalist family, rather than have his daughter exposed to the ideas of the liberal mother...about how it was ok for the daughter to consider having career interests (Shocking!!!) he actually took the daughter away from the house and her influences. When the liberal mother showed the kids how brainwashed they were by the father, he had a long talk with the kids explaining to them that he wasn't brainwashing them, but protecting them from outside influences....though he had just admitted to the liberal mother that he was in fact brainwashing them and saw no problem with that. amazing. 29038. judithathome - 3/28/2008 3:10:52 PM I missed that one but I watch that show occasionally. If I see it listed in rerun, I'll definitely watch it.
I love that show exactly for the reasons you mentioned...how everyone goes into it wanting to "share their ways" but usually end up being rigid and dogmatic...the worst was that heavey-set lady called the God Warrior. She was loony. 29039. jexster - 3/28/2008 5:58:48 PM Thomas Merton - the 5 Ways of God Part One
29040. judithathome - 4/5/2008 9:16:47 PM Federal judge in Maryland orders liens against Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church building and the Phelps-Chartered Law office
If the case presided over by U.S. District Court Judge Richard D. Bennett is upheld by an appeals court, the church, at 3701 S.W. 12th, and the office building, at 1414 S.W. Topeka Blvd., could be obtained by the court and sold, with the proceeds being applied toward $5 million in damages Bennett imposed on church members for picketing a military funeral.
How's THAT for good news! 29041. anomie - 4/5/2008 9:57:24 PM As much as I'd like to see these Phelps folks be put of business, I'm a little concerned about the threat to free speech. These news articles never really explain the legal case, so there's probably more to it than "picketing...". I hope so anyway. We shouldn't be sued for just picketing, no matter how stupid the reason. 29042. jexster - 4/11/2008 1:28:31 AM Next thing ya know, they'll be marryin dogs
Adam and Eve NOT Adam and STEVE
Good People of Church of the Advent, Christ the King, please come to a barbeque to celebrate of the engagement of Ricardo Avila and William Bonnell. This will be held on Saturday, 26 April, at 1pm, at the home of Deacon Mary and Jim Hudak. There is a BART station in Orinda – we will try and accommodate those needing a ride . Please try and let us know by 20 April if you will join us. All are invited and welcome to come. 29043. wonkers2 - 4/20/2008 12:21:32 AM Seven deadly sins updated by the Vatican Vatican Update 29044. jexster - 4/20/2008 9:33:44 PM One of my favorite orders featured prominently at Yankee Stadium
Franciscan Friars of the Renewal
Especially fond of Benedict Groeschel: Near Death.... 29045. jexster - 4/20/2008 9:44:20 PM 
29046. jexster - 4/24/2008 1:54:02 AM Good NEWS from the NyT!
The Russian Orthodox are FINALLY doing something about their Prot problem!
I am especially heartened that they're going after evangelicals and Methodisses (Bush, Clinton - need I say more!)
But there's another reason to rejoice. My parish has a special relationship with the Orthodox via the man who later became Metropolitan of Moscow and a saint/martyr in the Russian Revolution. We've even commissioned a Holy Icon and erected a votive altar to the Saint!
Russian St. Nicholas' Cathedral
15 E. 97 St.., New York
Rev. Charles N. Lathrop,
San Francisco, Cal.
Rev. and dear Father:-
Having read in the Living Church your letter about awful calamity which occured (sic) in San Francisco and destroyed your beautiful and so-memorable to our heart Church, I beg to send you as a small token of my condolence and sympathy a sacred Chalice and paten, which perhaps you will find useful for your services.
May God give you and to your parish a strength and energy to rebuild same magnificent House of prayer, as you have had before, and to continue your noble work of preaching true Gospel of the Christ.
With best wishes and blessings,
I am, Reverend Sir,
[Signed] Sincerely yours
Archbishop Tikhon
May 12th, 1906.
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This document, written in English as reproduced here, doesn't require any commentaries. These holy vessels are still reverently kept at the Church of the Advent of Christ the King (Episcopalian) at 261 Fell Street, between Franklin and Gough Street, San Francisco.
29047. jexster - 4/24/2008 7:41:27 PM Ruins of the Church of the Advent, SF 1906
 29048. wonkers2 - 5/12/2008 2:37:55 PM Jesus & George 29049. wonkers2 - 5/12/2008 4:50:11 PM The curious case of Bishop Paul Moore The Bishop's Daughter 29050. wonkers2 - 5/13/2008 6:36:29 PM Washington University is giving Phyllis Schlafly an honorary doctorate. As Katha Politt observed in "The Nation" May 26, Schlafly is "an archfoe of the Equal Rights Amendment, the United Nations, Darwinism and other newfangled notions, and the promoter of innumerable crackpot, far-right conspiracy theories who called the Bomb 'a marvelous gift that was given to our country by a wise God.' Her eighty-two years haven't mellowed her one bit: last year she blamed the Virginia Tech massacre on the English department; called intellectual men 'liberal slobs'; advocated banning women from traditionally male occupations like construction, firefighting and the military; and defended men's property rights over their wives' vaginas (by getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape.') The campus is in an uproar, and no wonder. After four years of hard work, female seniors get to watch their school honor someone who thinks they should park their diplomas in the kitchen sink. Washington U might as well bring in mad misogynist Chris Matthews or Jexter as commencement speaker. Oh. you mean...?No! Yes." 29051. thoughtful - 5/13/2008 6:58:34 PM How about banning women from traditionally male kudos such as receiving honorary doctorates? Let's start with Phyllis!
How about banning women from traditionally male occupations such as being speakers and front men for political organizations? Let's start with Phyllis!
Apparently this woman hasn't learned anything about tolerance from her gay son either. 29052. jexster - 5/20/2008 12:19:22 AM We Made the Cover Wonks!!!
 29053. jexster - 5/21/2008 1:12:40 AM Harper's June Cover Story - money quote:
Still the question remains: How does a Christian population implicated in militarism, usury, sweatshop
labor, and environmental rape find a way to sleep
at night? Apparently, by making a very big deal
out of not sleeping with Gene Robinson. 29054. concerned - 6/4/2008 7:19:20 AM Atheism versus Christianity
Democide* Statistics, Christianity vs. Atheism
Atheist Democide in 1 century - 153.36 million people
Christian Democide in 20 centuries - 1.65 million people
* Democide includes genocide, political killings and murders, and mass murder.
Leftists like jexster who drink the atheist Kool-Ade don't have the innate intellectual resources to understand why Christianity has always been so much more benign than the Left Wing political philosophies that have afflicted civilization during the last 100 plus years. 29055. concerned - 6/4/2008 7:26:14 AM And to anyone who replies by effectively diminuating or dismissing these 150 million deaths from atheist regimes, I would suggest that they go fuck themselves because they don't have a concept of humaneness.
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