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3440. alistairconnor - 12/26/2005 12:05:54 PM Away in a manger
No crib for a bed
The little lord Jesus lay down his swede head.
so nobody was shocked by it Pelle...
Though I'm not familiar with this usage of "crib" for a cot or baby bed, other than in this christmas carol.
What says Wikipedia?
Crib may mean:
* Crib (cryptanalysis), a sample of known plaintext that can be used to crack open a cypher.
* Crib (furniture), a small bed specifically for babies and infants.
* Cribbage, a card game.
* Nativity scene
* Home (American slang), one's living space.
* A rudimentary holiday home (South Island of New Zealand slang). Bach is used for the North Island equivalent.
* Cribbing (horse), when a horse bites a fixed object, arches its neck and sucks in air.
I am familiar with the UK english verb "to crib" meaning to copy, e.g. in an exam, from which the cryptographic derivation would seem to come. I have played the card game, and I know the NZ term, which is no doubt related to Ulgine's crack-ho usage...
Confusingly, the Wikipedia reference for the baby furniture says this :
A cot is a small bed (called a crib in American English) specifically for babies and infants. A crib can also refer to a stand that contains hay (a 'hay crib'), used to feed animals.
So it would seem you were right after all Pelle...
but the song contradicts itself. 3441. thoughtful - 12/26/2005 4:34:44 PM In my american english, this is a crib:
Meaning the bed for the infant.
But in the same way a place to store something like a corn crib or a hay crib which is also where the name for cribbage comes from where there is a stash of cards for the dealer...not a reach to the place to hole up or a place where someone lives.
I've also heard the term of cribbing meaning copying but not sure how that relates.
Flipping channels the other night came across Robert MacNeil (ex MacNeil Lehrer hour, ex BBC, ex NBC) discussing his new book on american english. He notes that just as americans are casual in their dress, so are they casual in their usage of english. 3442. PelleNilsson - 12/26/2005 6:43:47 PM I pursued the subject. It seems that this is one of the many cases where English has two words, one of Latin origin brought in by the Conqueror and his gang, the other of Germanic, which mean more or less the same thing.
I looked at the Bible passage in question (the first verses of Luke:2). The English translation has 'manger', the German 'Krippe' and the Swedish 'krubba'.
Then I looked at Merriam-Webster. About 'manger' it says
"Etymology: Middle English mangeour, manger, from Middle French maingeure, from mangier to eat, from Latin manducare to chew, devour, from manducus glutton, from mandere to chew -- more at MANDIBLE
: a trough or open box in a stable designed to hold feed or fodder for livestock"
and about 'crib'
"Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cribb; akin to Old High German krippa manger, and perhaps to Greek griphos reed basket
1 : a manger for feeding animals
2 : an enclosure especially of framework: as a : a stall for a stabled animal b : a small child's bedstead with high enclosing usually slatted sides c : any of various devices resembling a crate or framework in structure d : a building for storage : BIN"
By now I had become a bit fascinated by the subject so I went on to look up the Bible in French. The word used there is 'crêche'. Wait a moment, I said to myself, isn't that an English word too? I have no idea what it means, but I remember seeing it. Back to M-W:
Etymology: French, from Old French creche manger, crib, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German krippa manger -- more at CRIB
1 : a representation of the Nativity scene
2 : DAY NURSERY
3 : a foundling hospital
So, in a sense we have come full circle, but not without learning some moderately interesting things along the way. 3443. jexster - 12/27/2005 4:33:48 AM Down at the corner block away is Suppenkuche always packed, never been.
They're Xmas eve special menu featured, Roast Sucking Pig, Venison Back, and Roast Holiday Goose..
I gotta go..Can at least afford the brunch if not the dinners
SOUP
Tagessuppe $4.00
(Soup of the day)
COLD DISHES
Großes Frühstück mit Aufschnitt, Käse und geko chtem Ei $8.00
(Large Breakfast with Cold Cuts, Cheese, Marmalade and a Soft Boiled Egg)
Müsli mit Quark, Joghurt, Milch und frischen Früchten $7.00
(Müsli with Quark, Yogurt and Fresh Fruit)
Gebeizter Lachs mit Dill-Senfsoße und einem gekochten Ei $8.00
(Cured Gravlox with Dill Mustard Sauce and a Soft Boiled Egg)
BRUNCH
Bauernfrühstück mit Gewürzgurken $8.00
(Farmers Omelette with Potatoes, Bacon and Cheese served with Pickles and Pork Sausage)
Geröstete Maultaschen mit Zwiebeln, Ei und Gurkensalat $8.00
(Sauteed German Ravioli scrambled with Eggs and Onions served with a Cucumber Salad)
Wurstgeröstel mit Ei, Kartoffeln, Speck und Gurkensalat $8.00
(Roasted Pork Sausages scrambled with Eggs, Potatoes and Bacon served with a Cucumber Salad)
Kaiserschmarrn mit Apfel und Pflaumenmus $7.00
(Emperor's Pancake with Brandied Raisins, served with Apple and Plum Compote)
Reibekuchen mit hausgemachtem Apfelmus $7.00
(Potato Pancakes with Housemade Apple Sauce)
Leberkäse mit Spiegelei und Bratkartoffeln $7.50
(Sauteed Bavarian Meatloaf with one Egg sunny side up and Roasted Potatoes)
Semmelknödel mit zwei Ei und Bratwürst $7.50
(Bread Dumpling with two Eggs and Bratwurst)
LUNCH
Wiener Schnitzel vom Schwein mit Bratkartoffeln und grünem Salat $9.50
(Breaded and Sauteed Porkloin with Roasted Potatoes and Green Salad)
Jägerschnitzel in Champignonsoße mit Spätzle und grünem Salat $9.50
(Sauteed Porkloin in Mushroom Sauce served with Spätzle and Green Salad)
Kassler vom Grill mit Sauerkraut und Kartoffelbrei $10.50
(Grilled Cured Pork Chop with Sauerkraut and Mashed Potatoes)
Gegrillte Nürnberger Bratwurst mit Sauerkraut und Kartoffelbrei $8.50
(Grilled Pork Sausage with Sauerkraut and Mashed Potatoes)
Tagesnachtisch $4.00
(Dessert of the day) 3444. Ms. No - 1/3/2006 9:10:47 PM Key Lime Pie
2 14oz cans sweetened condensed milk
1 cup Key Lime Juice
2 whole eggs
1 cup fat free sour cream
2 tbl powdered sugar
1 graham cracker pie crust
Blend condensed milk, key lime juice and eggs together. Pour into pie shell and bake at 325 for 15 minutes.
Remove from oven and allow to cool.
Whip powdered sugar into sour cream and spread over top of cooled pie. Use lime wedges or grated lime peel for garnish.
Refrigerate at least two hours before serving.
3445. judithathome - 1/3/2006 9:32:36 PM HEL-lo!! 3446. Ms. No - 1/3/2006 10:27:55 PM I like it because it's a bit less sweet than the whipped cream topped versions and I'm not a fan of meringue.
Oh, yeah, and it's ridiculously easy! 3447. thoughtful - 1/3/2006 10:36:37 PM ...and I'm not a fan of meringue.
ACK! I LOVE meringue. Lemon meringue pie was one of my faves and for awhile I was addicted to the meringue cookies from trader joe's. Once I made a floating island dessert which is dollops of meringue floating on custard, Yum.
And then there was our other fave...baked alaska. We always had this deal that whoever's birthday it was got to pick the menu including the dessert. Baked alaska made that list quite a few times. 3448. thoughtful - 1/3/2006 10:40:35 PM There's just something wonderful about popping a cake loaded with ice cream into a hot oven to brown up the meringue:
 3449. Ms. No - 1/3/2006 10:51:00 PM That is a thing of beauty! I think maybe it's the texture that doesn't grab me. There's certainly nothing wrong with the taste. 3450. judithathome - 1/3/2006 10:53:06 PM Keoni just raced in to drop off cleaning and he saw the Key Lime Pie recipe and insisted I copy it to documents. Heh. 3451. Jenerator - 1/3/2006 11:25:59 PM Eduardo's Key Lime pie is pretty good. 3452. Ms. No - 1/3/2006 11:54:31 PM Just to insert some vitamins:
Did I mention the best green beans I ever had? A friend of mine cooked out London broil for me on Christmas Eve afternoon and he served green beans on the side, steamed and then lightly sauteed in Bragg's Liquid Aminos and toasted sesame oil. The steak was good but I'd have been happy to feast on nothing but green beans, they were so delicious!
Partly I was impressed because green beans have always just been a kind of "okay" side dish so far as I'm concerned. I think that's due to growing up in the South where they were always either canned or overcooked or both.
That's never made sense to me. There's plenty of fresh, delicious produce available in the South so why oh why would anyone ever served canned green beans? 3453. thoughtful - 1/3/2006 11:57:03 PM Never heard of bragg's liquid aminos...what is it? 3454. Ms. No - 1/4/2006 12:55:50 AM It's a seasoning sauce you can find in the health food section of your grocery store. Looks kind of like soy sauce but isn't nearly as salty or as vinegary. I've no idea what's in it. Amino acids presumably but how they get them I don't know. There's supposedly some Bragg Diet for Better Health I think, but I was too busy rolling my eyes in rapture over the beans to read the bottle. 3455. Ms. No - 1/4/2006 12:57:32 AM Here you go: Bragg's Liquid Aminos 3456. thoughtful - 1/4/2006 3:49:15 PM Interesting..I never heard of the stuff. I'll have to give it a try. 3457. Jenerator - 1/4/2006 4:50:03 PM Anyone work out witha bosu ball before?
Here's one way to use it:
 3458. Jenerator - 1/4/2006 4:54:24 PM I actually had it flipped over so that the ball is on the bottom and the disc is on the top. The challenge is to find the balance while demosntrating perfect form in certain exercises. The lady above is doing simple squats which are pretty easy until you have to focus while standing on a moving ball. I had no idea how challenging this was until yesterday. I did 60 of those babies, and now I am having some muscles hurt that I didn't know I had.
3459. thoughtful - 1/4/2006 5:26:20 PM I had to do balancing exercises on one foot on a wobble board of some sort as PT for my broken ankle. It was not pleasant. In fact, it hurt a lot. Then I got good at it so it wouldn't hurt so much and then they made me do it with my eyes closed. Balancing with your eyes closed is a whole nother thing.
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