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345. CalGal - 9/27/1999 5:43:39 AM

PsychProf,

I create a table just for the piece of text in question. There are probably other ways of doing it, but this is the first method I'm experimenting with. It requires guessing, and I think the spacing on the Check for Dust thread is slightly different than on the posting page itself. I'll have to fix that. If you want to see what I mean, copy the text below the formatted version (which is how I created it) and look at it in Check for Dust. It's gorgeous. And then look how it turns out. (sob)

And then, every so often, there's one on the list that stayed under the
radar. One of these movies is The Third Man, which is often described as the greatest movie you've never heard of. It is hard to categorize--it fits the bill nicely as film noir, a mystery, a love story,
or a devastatingly accurate commentary on post-war Europe--and this may be why it has not remained as widely known as other great movies from the 40s. Happily, it has been refurbished and rereleased on its 50th anniversary to quite a bit of attention--critics have been very happy to see its return and have made much fuss.

< table >< tr >< td >< img src="http://www.openix.com/~danb/third.jpg" >< /td >< td valign="top" >And then, every so often, there's one on the list that stayed under the radar. One of these movies is The Third Man, which is often described as the greatest movie you've never heard of. It is hard to categorize--it fits the bill nicely as film noir, a mystery, a love story,< /td>< /tr>< /table> or a devastatingly accurate commentary on post-war Europe--and this may be why it has not remained as widely known as other great movies from the 40s. Happily, it has been refurbished and rereleased on its 50th anniversary to quite a bit of attention--critics have been very happy to see its return and have made much fuss.

346. CalGal - 9/27/1999 5:49:26 AM

It just occurred to me that this will always be a problem when margins are screwed up, too. Hmm. So the trick is to hardcode the table to a certain width.

Try again.

And then, every so often, there's one on the list that stayed under the radar. One of these movies is The Third Man, which is often described as the greatest movie you've never heard of. It is hard to categorize--it fits the bill nicely as film noir, a mystery, a love story, or a devastatingly accurate commentary on post-war Europe--and this may be
why it has not remained as widely known as other great movies from the 40s. Happily, it has been refurbished and rereleased on its 50th anniversary to quite a bit of attention--critics have been very happy to see its return and have made much fuss.

347. CalGal - 9/27/1999 5:50:49 AM

Okay, so you can't control your environment completely, but if the margins were normal right now, I think this would have looked okay.

So hardcode the table width--I used 400.

Don't forget to put < /td > tags, which aren't mandatory--but Netscape will mess things up something awful if you don't use them.

348. SoupIsGoodFood - 9/27/1999 6:07:55 AM

And then, every so often, there's one on the list that stayed under the radar. One of these movies is The Third Man, which is often described as the greatest movie you've never heard of. It is hard to categorize--it fits the bill nicely as film noir, a mystery, a love story,or a devastatingly accurate commentary on post-war Europe--and this may be why it has not remained as widely known as other great movies from the 40s. Happily, it has been refurbished and rereleased on its 50th anniversary to quite a bit of attention--critics have been very happy to see its return and have made much fuss.


 
 
And then, every so often, there's one on the list that stayed under the radar. One of these movies is The Third Man, which is often described as the greatest movie you've never heard of. It is hard to categorize--it fits the bill nicely as film noir, a mystery, a love story, or a devastatingly accurate commentary on post-war Europe--and this may be why it has not remained as widely known as other great movies from the 40s. Happily, it has been refurbished and rereleased on its 50th anniversary to quite a bit of attention--critics have been very happy to see its return and have made much fuss. Trying to predict where the text is going to break is a fool's errand. I mean, why bother, when you can do an actual wrap?

349. CalGal - 9/27/1999 6:12:36 AM

Soup,

Hence my comment in my first post:

There are probably other ways of doing it, but this is the first method I'm experimenting with.

As in, I hadn't really checked it out yet and was playing around.

Thanks for the tip--tP, is it?

350. CalGal - 9/27/1999 6:30:12 AM

Prof,

I'll standardize Soup's method and add it to HTML hints--he's using the colspan tag. Do a view source for the tags.

351. robertjayb - 9/27/1999 8:02:59 AM

Post?

352. pellenilsson - 9/27/1999 7:31:19 PM

Testing the width statement.



Peter Bruegel the Elder, The Triumph of Death

353. pellenilsson - 9/27/1999 7:35:57 PM

And here something from my current continent of abode:

354. pellenilsson - 9/27/1999 7:41:58 PM

How high is the screen?



This is height="550" which fits well on my 1000x800 screen. What should one use for a 640x480 screen? Are there such around in the Mote?

355. PsychProf - 9/27/1999 8:12:05 PM

Cal...thanks much...

356. Dusty - 9/27/1999 9:25:11 PM

pellenilsson


The second one fits, but the first one is too tall. I’m running 1024 x 768, but don't forget, a chunk of the screen is taken up by the borders of the browser.

I hadn't thought about height limitations, but if one wants the entire image to be on the screen, then there are obviously limits. I'll bet there aren't too many 640 x 480 in this group, but there may be 800 x 600. When I switch to 800 x 600, the second image just barely fails to fit, even when eliminating toolbars. However, it does fit when clicking on the full-screen option.

Hint to eMoters: if someone displays a tall image that doesn't quite fit on your screen, did you know that there is a button on the browser for a full-screen option? It doesn't literally give the whole screen for the window, but it does give you more viewing room. Both IE and Netscape have this option.

357. Dusty - 9/27/1999 10:00:56 PM

BTW, striking image, Pelle

358. SoupIsGoodFood - 9/28/1999 12:43:24 AM


 
  
Thanks for the tip--tP, is it? ...

I'll standardize Soup's method and add it to HTML hints--he's using the colspan tag.


I just caught this first bit. Is "CalGal" speculating on my identity and gender? Isn't that a little unfair when she reportedly has access to the user database?

And it's not the "colspan" tag. Uhh, look closer.

359. CalGal - 9/28/1999 1:36:28 AM

And then, every so often, there's one on the list that stayed under the radar. One of these movies is The Third Man, which is often described as the greatest movie you've never heard of. It is hard to categorize--it fits the bill nicely as film noir, a mystery, a love story,or a devastatingly accurate commentary on post-war Europe--and this may be why it has not remained as widely known as other great movies from the 40s. Happily, it has been refurbished and rereleased on its 50th anniversary to quite a bit of attention--critics have been very happy to see its return and have made much fuss.

360. CalGal - 9/28/1999 1:41:16 AM

Hey, cool. I was misled by the other tags that showed up in your post and hadn't had time to play with it.

Much easier, if I understand it--you just align the table left and the text wraps. Thanks. PP, do you see that?

And tP--if that's not it, there's no need to keep everyone else guessing. Just explain it.

And I would hardly need access to the user database to make a least a decent guess about your identity.

361. SoupIsGoodFood - 9/28/1999 1:59:02 AM

I've taken my query to the "Policy" thread.

362. Dusty - 9/28/1999 2:17:10 AM

oupIsGoodFood

Isn't that a little unfair when she reportedly has access to the user database?

?? I don't think so. Where did you see this report?

BTW, thanks for the help in giving us new tools to improve our look. Many of us are HTML neophytes, and it is nice to hear from people with experience.

363. Nostradamus - 9/28/1999 2:21:33 AM

364. pellenilsson - 9/28/1999 3:02:00 PM

CalGal

Will you please explain this text wrapping thing in full?

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