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3696. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 3/27/2006 10:10:55 PM

WINE 101

3697. thoughtful - 3/27/2006 10:38:09 PM

You are aware, are you not, that blind taste tests by supposed wine experts were unable to tell the difference between red and white wine when served at the same temperature? And also, when served a wine and told it was a white described it in far different terms than when they were served the exact same wine and told it was a red?

3698. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 3/27/2006 10:38:22 PM

Speaking of Sideways and Pinot Noir . . . and if you like complex wine . . .

My Favorite Winery

My Favorite Wine (2001 if you can still get it)

3699. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 3/27/2006 10:48:47 PM

You are aware, are you not, that blind taste tests by supposed wine experts were unable to tell the difference between red and white wine when served at the same temperature? And also, when served a wine and told it was a white described it in far different terms than when they were served the exact same wine and told it was a red?

You are aware that I wasn't trying to be a pretentious know-it-all or step on anyone's toes. My only motivation was to help by sharing some experience and defend my adjective of "robust" without being obnoxious.

3700. wonkers2 - 3/28/2006 1:32:30 AM

Yes, but red wine usually gives me a headache. White does not.

3701. arkymalarky - 3/28/2006 4:03:24 AM

I like merlot, and I love the beaujolais Judith mentioned and she and Keoni are the reason I know it's so great! I don't like chardonnay. But I know zip about wine. If I like the taste and a couple of glasses don't make me feel icky, it's good.

Red wine can cause headaches. Sometimes I get them with red wine and sometimes not, but I read somewhere that the precursor to a migraine may actually be a craving for red wine rather than being caused by it, and I think that's at least sometimes true, at least for me.

3702. thoughtful - 3/28/2006 2:52:11 PM

the headaches from red wine have 2 causes...histimines and nitrites. White wines also have them, but less. I drink only italian whites as they are the cleanest wines and rarely get headaches from them. When we were in italy, we drank a lot of wine and never got drunk and never got headaches. Very nice stuff.

3703. wonkers2 - 3/28/2006 3:03:02 PM

I can drink a lot of good Spanish sherry (e.g. La Ina)without getting a head ache. But it does make one drunk!

3704. alistairconnor - 3/28/2006 3:17:40 PM

I note I never get a headache from drinking organic wine. But often enough from drinking other stuff...

Sulphites are another head-hurter, and are generally much lower in organic wines. In Italy, wine-making is pretty "clean" these days -- whenever I ask for organic wine, they tell me, well, this is "nearly organic" and it's pretty true.

3705. Magoseph - 3/28/2006 3:50:39 PM

I used to drink this one Côtes du Rhône Villages and never became inebriated, but then I was young.


3706. Magoseph - 3/28/2006 3:51:32 PM

Oh, I didn mean to imply that I drank mild.

3707. Magoseph - 3/28/2006 3:51:56 PM

Didn't, darn!

3708. Magoseph - 3/28/2006 3:52:38 PM

Milk, darn! No, I had no wine...yet.

3709. wonkers2 - 3/28/2006 3:53:07 PM

I thought the Italians added bull's blood or something to their red wines? Is my memory failing me?

3710. thoughtful - 3/28/2006 3:57:40 PM

I only remember that they crushed the grapes with their feet...adding that certain je ne c'est qua.

3711. PelleNilsson - 3/28/2006 4:18:14 PM

It's an Hungarian brand that has bull's blood in the name.

3712. wonkers2 - 3/28/2006 4:18:27 PM

Maybe this is what I was half-remembering about Italian wines? Methanol.

3713. wonkers2 - 3/28/2006 4:37:47 PM

What is red wine?

3714. alistairconnor - 3/28/2006 4:52:00 PM

No, in the old days, various things were used for fining wines. The principle is that if you put animal protein into solution -- e.g. egg whites, or blood -- it binds to the little particles and causes it to precipitate out.

These days, it's generally filtered instead. And in any case, your real wine snob will not object to a certain amount of solid matter in the bottom of the bottle.

3715. thoughtful - 3/29/2006 2:50:31 PM

lees? beeswing?

I think i spend too much time doing xword puzzles.

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