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45367. Wombat - 11/24/2012 11:16:58 PM "Get the government out of my medicare." The tea party in a nutshell. A collection of entitled folks with a great deal of time on their hands, who resent the hell out of anyone else they think might threaten their lifestyle, particularly when done by the n****r President of their country. Our own Concerned personifies their stupidity.
The best part about them is that they cost the Republicans at least four senate seats in the last two elections. Also their brand of selfish crazy was an excellent motivation to get out the vote. 45368. concerned - 11/25/2012 12:22:34 AM Jesus, Wombat - you're a racist a-hole. 45369. concerned - 11/25/2012 12:26:59 AM The Fiscal Cliff- Don't Jump!
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As the nation nears the so-called fiscal cliff, Republicans in Congress must be wary of the solutions being put forward for a "grand bargain" by President Obama and Democrats in Congress. Unsurprisingly, the President and the Congressional Democrats are using tempting but dishonest rhetoric – calling for "fairness," a "balanced approach," and a "return to Clinton Era tax rates" to balance the budget.
This rhetoric is misleading for several reasons. First, Democrats are not really proposing going back to the Clinton Era tax rates. If income, capital gains and other tax rates were raised to Clinton Era levels, these higher rates would be in addition to all of the Democrats’ tax hikes enacted since the 2006 election, such as those contained in ObamaCare and the 2009 Children's Health Insurance Program expansion (CHIP). Democrats have no intention of eliminating the tax increases imposed during Obama's first term. So, the real result of their "balanced approach" would be higher taxes than existed under Clinton for virtually everyone – not just "the rich."
Second, as explained below, the Democrats' rhetoric completely ignores the fact that anemic economic growth, not tax cuts, is the main cause of the budget deficit. Any effort to bring the budget into balance should focus on pro-growth tax and spending policies, not misguided tax hikes. Voters will recall that Obama stated during the 2008 campaign that he would raise taxes out of "fairness" even if doing so would result in lost revenue due to decreased economic activity. One has to wonder if the President’s push for tax hikes is motivated not by deficit reduction, but rather by a misguided sense of fairness.
Third, the Democrats' budget argument is disingenuous because it ignores the impact that spending has had on the budget picture. Federal spending is growing faster than inflation. Put another way, the government’s budget has been growing faster than your family’s budget.
Fourth, the Democrats' budget framework ignores the fact that regulatory policies have also hampered economic growth. To be sure, a regulatory regime at the EPA that wants to "crucify" certain businesses and a President who wants to "bankrupt" other businesses (coal plants) are damaging the economy. The Democrats' are ignoring the cost that excessive regulations pose on the economy and, in turn, how these costly regulations reduce federal revenue by slowing economic growth.
You Lefties let me know what, if anything, you disagree with in this excerpt.
45370. Wombat - 11/25/2012 9:00:28 PM Typical transference from Concerned. I describe the sentiments conveyed at countless Tea Party demonstrations, and Concerned calls me racist.
45371. Wombat - 11/25/2012 9:12:31 PM Concerned,
Opinions don't equal analysis. An opinion piece from a former Republican party congressman, and present Town Hall hack, is meaningless. We know what you believe, Concerned. Pasteing nothing but pieces that express opinions that you agree with is bordering on Jexter-ish spam, nor is it evidence of your mental and political acuity. Any moron can cut and paste stuff ad nauseam, as you continually demonstrate.
Oh, the current natural gas boom is probably going to do more to kill the coal industry than any amount of Federal regulations. 45372. iiibbb - 11/25/2012 11:39:06 PM There is hope for the Republican party 45373. judithathome - 11/25/2012 11:43:51 PM I heard Congressman Peter King say today that in the late 40s, they signed pledges not to attack Japan again but the "sell by" date has sorta passed on the need for THAT pledge.
They gave Grover 20 years...it's over now and high time for it to be, too..
And while Graham may sound sane on this one, the rest of his time on the gas bag shows showed him to be over-the-edge monomanical about Susan Rice.
45374. Wombat - 11/26/2012 12:08:36 AM Before we celebrate the cracking of the GOP tax-cut religious stance too much, let's see what they'll demand in return. 45375. judithathome - 11/26/2012 3:55:32 AM First borns, for sure.... 45376. iiibbb - 11/26/2012 5:08:35 AM All I said was hope... didn't say nuthin' else. 45377. concerned - 11/26/2012 9:57:21 AM Wombat - you're the whackjob who said Greeks not paying taxes were basically equivalent to US Tea Partiers.
That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. You clearly will post any insane thing whatsoever to try to cover up Socialism's abject failures and shortcomings.
You have shown that you simply don't have the standing to criticize any conservative opinion whatsoever, in light of your irrational Left Wing hackery. 45378. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:15:33 AM ObamaCare Faces the Implementation Iceberg
It wouldn't surprise me if the Federal Exchanges never are fully implemented considering that only 20 states are setting up their own.
I am thankful that my nearly 83 year old father is having hernia surgery now before 0bamacare takes effect. I would expect that 0bamacare would only cover 'palliative care' for someone his age in this case, consigning him to a wheelchair for his drastically shortened life.
Fuck 0bamacare and the foolishness of those who voted for it.
45379. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:18:26 AM My father lives a fully independent life and lives in and maintains his own home, btw. Fuck 0bamacare. 45380. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:20:30 AM Without this hernia surgery, he basically would not be able to continue to live independently. Fuck 0bamacare. 45381. Wombat - 11/26/2012 4:27:21 PM Concerned,
Hopefully Obamacare will pay for treatment for your anxiety issues, which appear to be making you even more deranged than you usually are.
Since you are the one who keeps on harping on the Greek- US "comparison," even though the size and scope of their economies are about as different as it is possible to be, I thought I'd mention what they do appear to have in common: populations that expect services from their government, but don't want to pay for them. If that offends you..., well I won't lose any sleep over it.
Don't you find it ironic that in the name of state's rights, certain governors are guaranteeing an increased level of Federal intervention in their states? Keep government out of my Medicare indeed. 45382. RickNelson - 11/27/2012 5:38:29 PM Concerned, really, really..., Really?!!
Read up on ALEC and it's influence upon todays GOP. Find out why it's so important for the GOP to remain in power, at all cost to American prosperity and peace.
Find out how the GOP refuses to back down from the insane cliff of their status quo. Look how reality is in Arizona, where the GOP runs everything, and everything is ruled by some inocuous law meant to divide and maintain their power structure. LOOK at it.
Why is it the states that reject the exchanges also have an impossible evaluation for Medicaid (not Medicare)? Look at the qualification, it's not 100% of poverty level, rather some insane tiny percentage of poverty level that qualifies a family for medicaid. Why is that moral and Ok?
Are the poor the parasites of the CEO's wanting government handouts for their failure the parasites?!
I don't give free passes for ignorance. No one gets to play havoc with reality. 45383. RickNelson - 11/27/2012 5:50:12 PM Supply Side economics is Voodoo and a debunked theory!
Kaynsian Economics is still weilding models, confirmed by reality. Taxes must rise upon the rich or the debt will not reduce, and the deficit remains a tangible threat to future GDP growth.
The dollar can hold in the short term from stimulus policies such as the lowest interest rates in history. The flood of dollars will not create hyper inflation in the U.S. during recovery, and it will help to maintain demand, the much needed variable of free markets.
Free markets have devolved to define imaginary instruments such as CDS and inflated stocks. Reissues of these intruments has become the direct cause of failure, and is the inevitable, near future destruction of trillions invested.
The GOP swept in these mechanisms by dismantling the ruling governance. They regard these imaginary trillions as reality, and the hard work of unions muscle and sweat as parasitical. 45384. RickNelson - 11/27/2012 5:52:17 PM Damn spelling errors, Keynesian and by default, whatever I missed. 45385. judithathome - 11/27/2012 6:33:07 PM "You clearly will post any insane thing whatsoever to try to cover up Socialism's Republican's abject failures and shortcomings.
You have shown that you simply don't have the standing to criticize any conservative liberal opinion whatsoever, in light of your irrational Left Right Wing hackery."
Transference ala Conn'd.
45386. judithathome - 11/27/2012 6:36:08 PM b Ex-Republicans claim Fla. GOP suppressed Democratic vote
Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer has been claiming for months that state party members engineered a new law to suppress voter turnout, falsely touting voter fraud concerns to advance their mission. Now, other former Republicans and consultants are backing Greer up, The Palm Beach Post reports.
Greer, who is under indictment and accused of funneling campaign funds from the Republican Party, has been claiming that state Republicans supported a law (HB 1355)—which, in part, curtailed early voting—simply as a means to stymie the Democratic vote.
Staff and consultants "never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue," Greer told the newspaper. "It's all a marketing ploy."
Former Republican Gov. Charlie Crist, GOP consultant Wayne Bertsch and one unnamed consultant now tell the newspaper that state Republicans and consultants were actively seeking ways to suppress Democratic turnout following the 2008 election.
"I know that the cutting out of the Sunday before Election Day was one of their targets only because that's a big day when the black churches organize themselves," the anonymous longtime GOP consultant told the newspaper.
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