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45374. Wombat - 11/26/2012 12:08:36 AM Before we celebrate the cracking of the GOP tax-cut religious stance too much, let's see what they'll demand in return. 45375. judithathome - 11/26/2012 3:55:32 AM First borns, for sure.... 45376. iiibbb - 11/26/2012 5:08:35 AM All I said was hope... didn't say nuthin' else. 45377. concerned - 11/26/2012 9:57:21 AM Wombat - you're the whackjob who said Greeks not paying taxes were basically equivalent to US Tea Partiers.
That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. You clearly will post any insane thing whatsoever to try to cover up Socialism's abject failures and shortcomings.
You have shown that you simply don't have the standing to criticize any conservative opinion whatsoever, in light of your irrational Left Wing hackery. 45378. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:15:33 AM ObamaCare Faces the Implementation Iceberg
It wouldn't surprise me if the Federal Exchanges never are fully implemented considering that only 20 states are setting up their own.
I am thankful that my nearly 83 year old father is having hernia surgery now before 0bamacare takes effect. I would expect that 0bamacare would only cover 'palliative care' for someone his age in this case, consigning him to a wheelchair for his drastically shortened life.
Fuck 0bamacare and the foolishness of those who voted for it.
45379. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:18:26 AM My father lives a fully independent life and lives in and maintains his own home, btw. Fuck 0bamacare. 45380. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:20:30 AM Without this hernia surgery, he basically would not be able to continue to live independently. Fuck 0bamacare. 45381. Wombat - 11/26/2012 4:27:21 PM Concerned,
Hopefully Obamacare will pay for treatment for your anxiety issues, which appear to be making you even more deranged than you usually are.
Since you are the one who keeps on harping on the Greek- US "comparison," even though the size and scope of their economies are about as different as it is possible to be, I thought I'd mention what they do appear to have in common: populations that expect services from their government, but don't want to pay for them. If that offends you..., well I won't lose any sleep over it.
Don't you find it ironic that in the name of state's rights, certain governors are guaranteeing an increased level of Federal intervention in their states? Keep government out of my Medicare indeed. 45382. RickNelson - 11/27/2012 5:38:29 PM Concerned, really, really..., Really?!!
Read up on ALEC and it's influence upon todays GOP. Find out why it's so important for the GOP to remain in power, at all cost to American prosperity and peace.
Find out how the GOP refuses to back down from the insane cliff of their status quo. Look how reality is in Arizona, where the GOP runs everything, and everything is ruled by some inocuous law meant to divide and maintain their power structure. LOOK at it.
Why is it the states that reject the exchanges also have an impossible evaluation for Medicaid (not Medicare)? Look at the qualification, it's not 100% of poverty level, rather some insane tiny percentage of poverty level that qualifies a family for medicaid. Why is that moral and Ok?
Are the poor the parasites of the CEO's wanting government handouts for their failure the parasites?!
I don't give free passes for ignorance. No one gets to play havoc with reality. 45383. RickNelson - 11/27/2012 5:50:12 PM Supply Side economics is Voodoo and a debunked theory!
Kaynsian Economics is still weilding models, confirmed by reality. Taxes must rise upon the rich or the debt will not reduce, and the deficit remains a tangible threat to future GDP growth.
The dollar can hold in the short term from stimulus policies such as the lowest interest rates in history. The flood of dollars will not create hyper inflation in the U.S. during recovery, and it will help to maintain demand, the much needed variable of free markets.
Free markets have devolved to define imaginary instruments such as CDS and inflated stocks. Reissues of these intruments has become the direct cause of failure, and is the inevitable, near future destruction of trillions invested.
The GOP swept in these mechanisms by dismantling the ruling governance. They regard these imaginary trillions as reality, and the hard work of unions muscle and sweat as parasitical. 45384. RickNelson - 11/27/2012 5:52:17 PM Damn spelling errors, Keynesian and by default, whatever I missed. 45385. judithathome - 11/27/2012 6:33:07 PM "You clearly will post any insane thing whatsoever to try to cover up Socialism's Republican's abject failures and shortcomings.
You have shown that you simply don't have the standing to criticize any conservative liberal opinion whatsoever, in light of your irrational Left Right Wing hackery."
Transference ala Conn'd.
45386. judithathome - 11/27/2012 6:36:08 PM b Ex-Republicans claim Fla. GOP suppressed Democratic vote
Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer has been claiming for months that state party members engineered a new law to suppress voter turnout, falsely touting voter fraud concerns to advance their mission. Now, other former Republicans and consultants are backing Greer up, The Palm Beach Post reports.
Greer, who is under indictment and accused of funneling campaign funds from the Republican Party, has been claiming that state Republicans supported a law (HB 1355)—which, in part, curtailed early voting—simply as a means to stymie the Democratic vote.
Staff and consultants "never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue," Greer told the newspaper. "It's all a marketing ploy."
Former Republican Gov. Charlie Crist, GOP consultant Wayne Bertsch and one unnamed consultant now tell the newspaper that state Republicans and consultants were actively seeking ways to suppress Democratic turnout following the 2008 election.
"I know that the cutting out of the Sunday before Election Day was one of their targets only because that's a big day when the black churches organize themselves," the anonymous longtime GOP consultant told the newspaper.
Yahoo News 45387. Wombat - 11/27/2012 9:26:11 PM Add Florida to Pennsylvania as admitted Republican efforts to suppress the vote. If a political party feels it has to resort to such strategies because they cannot otherwise win, it doesn't say much for their continued relevance. I'd be "concerned" about that, if I was a Republican. 45388. judithathome - 11/27/2012 9:44:22 PM Heh...me, too...but I am sure we'll hear nothing but confidence from that arena. 45389. anomie - 11/28/2012 5:51:29 AM Judith, Wombat, Thoughtful and others... I just want to express my admiration to ya'll for hanging in there with Concerned over the past few months. Don't know where you get such fortitude. As for me,I have pretty much dropped out of trying to talk with neoconservatives, and I seem to meet them everywhere. Some of them are hard working low-wage earners or living on SS ad medicare...I have given up on reasoning with them. I wish we had William F.Buckley types around like the good ole days.
To Concerned: I'm not dissing you personally, and it's been a fun couple months, but really... I hope this election signals the beginning of some good sense returning to the Republican mentality. You should get ahead of the crowd. 45390. Wombat - 11/28/2012 6:41:53 PM This from the deep thinkers and constitutional experts of the Tea Party, of which Concerned is a proud member.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-stopped-in-electoral-college/
Note that World Net Daily's editors run a disclaimer because it is so wrong. 45391. Wombat - 11/28/2012 6:47:01 PM It appears that Mitt Romney was wrong about how 47% of the voters wouldn't vote for him. It is looking like Romney's share of the popular vote will be...wait for it...47%! 45392. concerned - 11/28/2012 8:34:17 PM Two-thirds of millionaires left Britain to avoid 50p tax rate
This was due to a top tax rate increase from 40% in 2009. So far, the increase has cost GB $7B in tax revenues, something that the Left is constitutionally unable to comprehend the possibility of occurring. Presumably the economy is deteriorating even faster in Hollande's France with his new 75% top marginal tax rate.
And from irs.gov, the number of millionaires in California has dropped from ~25,000 in 2000 to about ~6,000 today due to Democrat tax increases.
The above is a prescription for the eventual destruction of the middle class and a huge increase in poverty and dependence on state entitlements with only a few uber rich types like Buffett and Soros who do little for private sector employment remaining as part of the picture, something that any intelligent well intentioned person would reject as a matter of course.
The above is yet more proof that the Left is fundamentally incapable of comprehending even basic economic real world interactions. The best thing the US Left could do for everybody's well being is to concede the field to fiscal conservatives, including the Tea Party, but Lefty incompetence and ignorance is only exceeded by their prescriptive arrogance.
45393. concerned - 11/28/2012 9:16:13 PM The above gives a couple excellent illustrations of the Laffer Curve as it applies to real world economics right now.
I know how much the Left *hates* the Laffer Curve, but hate never solved any problems, Lefties. You just need to make your concepts comport with reality.
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