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45668. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 12:05:03 AM Ours has always gone up every time we've gotten a raise, over 40 years now. 45669. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 12:05:35 AM 30. Just feels like 40. 45670. Ms. No - 10/18/2013 12:58:32 AM I refuse to pay more even if I can. Anybody who can't afford it can go starve in the street -- and their children with them. Fuck all those little children who are a drain on my disposable income. Let 'em starve and be illiterate and die of preventable childhood diseases.
If they survive, I'm perfectly willing to pay to have them incarcerated, but don't ask me to chip in for textbooks. If they wanted to live a decent life they should've been born into a family with more resources just like I was. 45671. wabbit - 10/18/2013 1:31:30 AM My health insurance went from about $520/month to over $750/month in two years, while Blue Cross was claiming rates were not going to increase more than 5%. And that is just for me, $2000 deductible, no dental. That was three years ago.
Of course, I am one of those system-sucking losers with a pre-existing condition, so there's that.
Ms. No, I love you, LOL! 45672. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 1:44:30 AM whew! For a minute there ms no I thought you were going to say abort them. 45673. judithathome - 10/18/2013 1:50:00 AM No, THAT'S a SIN!!!! 45674. robertjayb - 10/18/2013 3:43:19 AM Passing through Arkansas last weekend I picked up an "Arkansas Times" with a cover story headed "Teacher Insurance is Broken. Can it be Fixed?" Inside, the article is labeled "Suffer the Teachers" and the subhead reads "Without an infusion of cash and a structural overhaul, the public school employee insurance plan won't survive."
Happy day's, Arky. 45675. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 2:13:41 PM yep. And our democratic Governor Mike Beebe has said there's no point in calling a session to deal with it because the Republican legislature doesn't have the will. And we can thank our Democratic governor jim guy tucker for the whole mess in the first place which separated us from the rest of the public insurance system. None of this has anything to do with Obamacare and neither does Jen's problem. She can come to Arkansas and find out what a real mess in the healthcare system is like without even thinking about Obamacare, since none of this has anything to do with it. Right now it provides the only possible alternative I will have if our insurance goes belly up. She was just looking to get in a gig with regard to the govern ment shutdown the whack job Teaparty started,which frankly turned around and bit her. I think it's time the GOP dumps some tea.
on another note, I really wish you would come by one of these days on your way through. We have a porch that doesn't have holes in it or anything. Although stan did have to shoot a skunk the other day, because it was chasing our dog in broad daylight. I can't imagine what that was about (rabies). 45676. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 2:23:53 PM when Mose was 21 and commuting to college from Hot Springs on a bad and dangerous road I couldn't cover her on my insurance anymore, so I went to get it from a private provider of BCBS, and she was denied. I had to go through a lot of hoops to get the reasons in writing, fearing she had something serious I wasn't aware of, and it turns out it was nothing. Allergies and acid reflux. That's what got her denied. I have very little patience with the whine about Obamavare now. Had we had it at that time she wouldn't have been dropped at 21 and then denied coverage. 45677. judithathome - 10/18/2013 7:42:31 PM One of the saving graces (and there are MANY) of the ACA is the child is covered under the parents' policy until 26...this was to allow kids like Mose to be protected while going to school.
The ACA doesn't affect US but if it DID, I would certainly appreciate the existing conditions part of it.
I still don't understand how Jen can heap so much abuse on Obama when her situation was brought on by Rick Perry but there ya go.... 45678. judithathome - 10/21/2013 7:47:15 PM It's started...twice already this morning: talking heads referring to Hillary's health. One even tied in BILL'S health.
They're running scared...you'd think they would be more concerned with the threat of Ted Cruz. 45679. wabbit - 10/21/2013 9:55:29 PM Did you see the 60 Minutes piece on Dick Cheney and his various heart interventions and recent transplant? I wonder where his health insurance comes from... 45680. arkymalarky - 10/21/2013 10:39:04 PM Right now he and Rush Limbaugh are the only two that I'm this way about, but I tried to watch it and could not make myself. He's just loathesome to me. 45681. judithathome - 10/24/2013 5:57:50 AM I wish I had a dollar for everytime I've heard a Republican claim the ACA is a disaster, train-wreck, communistic, failure of epic proportions, yada yada yada...the list is endless and would make me a rich woman in a month! 45682. Ms. No - 10/24/2013 4:58:20 PM The website is a disaster and I'm imagining Obama would love to be able to torture and execute someone over that fiasco, but the program itself is the best we could do in the face of massive Republican opposition.
I heard a clip about a week ago or so --- during the shutdown, at any rate --- of a Democratic Senator pointing out that it is in the best interest of people who claim to hate government to run that government into the ground just so they can say "I told you so."
45683. arkymalarky - 10/24/2013 10:50:04 PM funny, these same folks were near fascist when Bush was president. America, love it or leave it, our nation right or wrong, etcetera etcetera. 45684. Jenerator - 10/28/2013 10:53:45 PM "Why don't you blame Rick Perry, Jen? He's the one who refused to participate fully in the ACA."
I didn't vote for Rick Perry.
Secondly. The insurance that I have right now is the equivalent of the 'platinum' level insurance offered in the ACA. If I were to try and keep that insurance, it would go up $1,200 A MONTH.
Now tell me that isn't ridiculous????
Not one of you would pay over a thousand dollars more willingly.
Obamacare is terrible legislation, period.
And I sincerely hope that any of you who voted for this piece of crap legislation get to enjoy it sooner rather than later.
"As if insurance rates have never gone up before the ACA. Really Jen."
Wombat - come on. right now my premium is $500 a month. There is no way I am going to pay $1,700 A MONTH to have a similar insurance plan. And I know you wouldn't, either.
The most my teacher insurance went up was 3% - PEANUTS compared to what it's going up in January.
Had Obama passed a law that got rid of pre-existing conditions, I would have supported that and championed it, but no.
My son's therapy stops in December. :(
45685. arkymalarky - 10/28/2013 11:02:25 PM Before Obamacare Mose couldn't get it at any price. What you're referring to is not Obamacare. You can get the same more cheaply than that now. And in AR the ledge fixed our problem with a midnight session. Maybe TX teachers could use their pull for a similar result.
But then I keep forgetting: Texas is like a whole 'nother country. 45686. Trillium - 10/29/2013 11:08:21 PM I'm hearing different stories about the ACA. Our insurance agent thinks that it will work, and that some people in my age bracket are getting much better rates than before. She gave an example of a family that is now saving $800 per month for a better insurance plan.
A cousin sends me links of discussions about ACA that claim the system will collapse because only the most desperate will sign on, and the healthier younger people will pay the penalty rather than sign up, because of the cost.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield is one of the groups that will serve most areas. I wonder if the other carriers will drop out and insurance will become single provider? Not government, but BCBS? Is BCBS the largest? It's the best known, I think.
I don't know. I do know that when the AIDS crisis went into full bloom around 1985, insurance rates skyrocketed, going up about 30% every 3 months for a year. I was paying close attention because my husband and I had just signed up for insurance because I had new babies and he had his own company. It's a huge expense.
My mother went without insurance for many years, during the decade before she was eligible for Medicare, because the cost was simply too high for an otherwise healthy person.
As a single person working for myself, before I had babies, I had avoided insurance for years before because the expense was higher than the return on the investment. 45687. Trillium - 10/29/2013 11:11:32 PM Funny New Yorker satire on the ACA website:
Borowitz on ACA website
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