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46244. Ms. No - 2/29/2016 4:09:31 AM Winston,
I'm with you. My liberal friends who are anti-Hillary just have a hate-on for her. One guy I was talking to said he couldn't respect her because she didn't leave her husband after he cheated on her. Another friend - female - couldn't point to anything specific, she just doesn't like her.
This friend and I were talking and she's very pro-Bernie and may actually register to vote this year for the very first time just so she can vote for him. I told her I thought Bernie was a cool dude saying a lot of things that need to be said but he'd be a lousy president because he does't have any real plans for how he's going to single-handedly overcome a hostile Congress when Obama hasn't been able to do so in 8 years.
I also mentioned that I was worried for the Dem's chances because there are so many Bernie supporters who are saying if he doesn't get the nomination they just won't vote.
She then says "Who says that? Where are you hearing this?" and I couldn't point to any specific time I'd heard it in some reputable place other than just overheard hipster conversations.
And not five minutes later she said, I shit you not, "If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I just won't vote."
It took her all of 15 seconds to realize what she'd said to me. I very politely did not rub it in. 46245. arkymalarky - 2/29/2016 4:56:45 AM If Trump gets the GOP nomination, as he almost certainly will, they'll vote. 46246. Ms. No - 2/29/2016 5:36:25 AM They'd fucking better.
My Senior Gov't/Econ class just held our first ever Voter Awareness Event on Friday. They're pretty fired up. 46247. arkymalarky - 2/29/2016 6:18:05 AM I've never seen anything like it. Can't wait to see what happens Tues. Wish I was still teaching history and gvt 46248. iiibbb - 2/29/2016 5:56:52 PM Ms No---
The proper way to address Bernie Voters is to say... "both are strong candidates who bring a lot of things to the table, but whoever winds up getting it I'm voting to ensure that there will be a supreme court in place that won't undo any of the political victories progressives have earned in the past 20 years or for the next 20 years".
It is utterly strange to me that as anti-Hillary I have been in the past (largely based on substantive issues I've had with her compared to other candidates), I find myself quite pro-Hillary with this field-----while all of these so-called "progressives" now hate her for some of the shallowest reasons I can imagine.
I'll try to suppress my cynicism for the little hypocritical fascists that run around calling themselves "progressives" these days. 46249. iiibbb - 2/29/2016 5:58:13 PM There was also a recent article that points out that Hillary and Bernie have voted the same on 93% of issues... so they ain't that different. 46250. arkymalarky - 2/29/2016 7:26:18 PM Some of that is GOP trolls. I think they were in the pumas as well. The majority aren't but there are some. The sincere ones will vote for her and I hope that if trump is the nominee that it will drive voters out who are rightly fearful of a trump presidency. This includes Republicans who are mortified at the impending train wreck. 46251. arkymalarky - 2/29/2016 7:55:05 PM The other day I was trying to think of where I'd heard the word winning Used like Trump's been using it, and it suddenly dawned on me: Charlie Sheen. 46252. iiibbb - 2/29/2016 8:32:42 PM Message # 46250 I must remind myself that most of the interactions I have with dyed in the wool Bernie supporters... as well as SJW/Progressives.... are vocal ones on the interwebs.
Mostly I am just not paying attention because a)I'm voting no matter what, and b) there is no way in hell I'm voting for any one of these fuckwits on the Republican side. I am not sure how long it will be before I'm even in a position to trust their motives as a party again. 46253. judithathome - 2/29/2016 9:57:43 PM Breaking news: For the first time in 10 YEARS, Clarence Thomas asked questions in a hearing at the Supreme Court! 46254. iiibbb - 3/1/2016 2:47:00 PM Il Duce
Best news of the week. Trump quotes Mussolini. 46255. winstonsmith - 3/1/2016 7:39:23 PM I think a lot of the crap Trump does will be useful for the Dems in the general election if he is the nominee. I think there are lots of people who are less inclined to overlook things that his base does not care about. 46256. winstonsmith - 3/1/2016 7:41:23 PM And, hopefully, Trump would drive turnout for the Democrats.
46257. winstonsmith - 3/1/2016 7:43:03 PM While suppressing turnout for demoralized moderate Republican's who wanted Bush or someone like him. 46258. arkymalarky - 3/1/2016 7:47:19 PM A number of prominent Republicans are saying unequivocally that they will not vote for him in the general election. 46259. arkymalarky - 3/1/2016 7:48:43 PM They're also openly questioning whether this is the death of the Republican Party. Democrats are smartly holding their fire and making sure there's plenty of rope available. 46260. judithathome - 3/1/2016 7:48:50 PM I think he's going to sweep Super Tuesday and kill off the Republican Party in one evening.
Speaker of the House Ryan comes out today after the major bombs have decimated his party and surveying the wreckage, lectures people on the dangers to the party if it lets someone like Trump become the standard bearer.
These idiots, rather than having all the candidates sign a loyalty oath promising to support the Republican nominee months ago...they should have done their utmost to stop this lunatic.
Now they are in the position of HAVING to support him or go back on their word to support the nominee.
Be careful what you you wish for....
And speaking of that loyalty oath, if Reince Priebus isn't kicked out of his chairmanship of the RNC after this debacle of a campaign, the Republicans are much more stupid than I thought.
46261. winstonsmith - 3/2/2016 1:25:54 AM Judith, I agree. It's hard to see how Reince keeps his job. 46262. Ms. No - 3/2/2016 6:43:11 AM i3b3,
"There was also a recent article that points out that Hillary and Bernie have voted the same on 93% of issues... so they ain't that different."
Yes, I've been pointing this out to people at every opportunity. Other than big-business, the only significant difference between Hillary and Bernie is on foreign policy, and I think I'll put my trust in the person who successfully served as Secretary of State and actually knows what she's talking about.
46263. winstonsmith - 3/2/2016 10:31:52 PM Looks like Ben Carson is out.
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