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46563. winstonsmith - 10/8/2016 7:53:28 PM Thanks Arky, that all makes sense. I see that more and more Republicans are rescinding their endorsements of Trump and calling for him to step down. Hopefully it will all play out in a way that is maximally damaging to republican down-ballot candidates. We need to at least get the Senate to get good people on the Court. 46564. arkymalarky - 10/8/2016 8:05:04 PM There's a reason Mitch McConnell demanded that Trump give a full clear apology. And he still didn't do it. He might think he did, but he didn't. 46565. Trillium - 10/8/2016 8:08:39 PM "Republican" and "Democrat" are a thing of the past, divisions from a different era. Sort of like the "Whig Party" from the early 1800s -- those party divisions don't exist anymore, for many current voters.
See this article from the Manchester Guardian, June 2016:
"Is Hillary Clinton a Neocon?
At work I am hearing people who assert that they are "lifelong Democrats" who will vote for Trump. At other locations I hear the opposite: "staunch Republicans" who intend to vote for Clinton. 46566. arkymalarky - 10/8/2016 8:24:38 PM The Democratic party is more united than it's ever been in my life time. I frankly don't know how the Republican party is going to regroup itself without the Tea Party and the alt right. 46567. arkymalarky - 10/8/2016 8:45:17 PM Because of our rule that whoever has the majority of electoral votes wins, there will always be a two party system in this country. There won't be a multi-party system and there will only be brief periods of one party as has been in the past of one-party systems. The Whigs were formed as a response to Andrew Jackson, who himself lost because of the system failure that resulted from having only one party, so they're not a very good example. Surprise surprise. 46568. judithathome - 10/8/2016 9:43:45 PM There may not be a Republican Party after this year but there will definitely be two parties.
And Arky is correct: as long as there is an Electoral College, there will only be two parties...voting third party is as usless as voting Demorcratic Party in TEXAS...my vote hasn't meant jackshit for 40 years in Texas because majority rules...electoral votes from Texas are Republican, period.
And forget changing the electoral "mapscape"; gerrymandering by the majority Republicans has taken care of THAT. 46569. Trillium - 10/8/2016 10:39:00 PM Both parties have left the majority of their constituents behind.
What comes out of this in coming weeks is probably going to be different than what has held sway in the past. Party leadership (both Republican and Democrat) may be the last ones to realize that.
Wait a few more weeks and we'll see -- I could always be wrong, but I think the Atlantic Monthly sees the same thing I do here
Why Democrats in Western Pennsylvania Are Voting Trump
A similar article could be written about Republican leadership who are going for Clinton. 46570. arkymalarky - 10/8/2016 10:41:27 PM That article is dated September 13th. Not exactly current. 46571. arkymalarky - 10/8/2016 11:03:44 PM good source as a reminder though of how strong the Democratic party actually is, considering the Atlantic broke with tradition to endorse Hillary Clinton 46572. arkymalarky - 10/9/2016 1:05:48 AM This is like a Gilligan's Island episode. Trump is a monkey with a grenade swinging it around and the Republican party is Gilligan trying to persuade him to set it down. 46573. winstonsmith - 10/9/2016 7:15:44 AM Red State says CNN is working on a story about how the. RNC is pressuring Pense to quit the ticket so Trum will become completely untenable and have to also drop out. Likely just #NeverTrump wishful thinking but the whole thing is surreal. 46574. arkymalarky - 10/9/2016 5:05:46 PM The thing is that after the autopsy of the last election this is what they end up with. Because to figure out cause and effect would require introspection, which the GOP is apparently completely incapable of. Mitch McConnell wanted to do nothing but obstruct Obama. He and the GOP didn't even consider the possibility that the reason 70% of this country thinks we're on the wrong track is because Congress has a 17% approval rating, especially when you consider that Obama has well over 50% approval. They refuse to look in the mirror or listen to anybody else.
The results are an ever shrinking extreme base that suffers from an excess of hate and anger, mostly directed at minorities. They then wring their hands about the Creepy Clown they created with their stupid stubbornness. Obama ought to pull the Merrick Garland nomination on his way out the door and nominate Ken Burns.
Thing is, they keep making the same stupid mistakes over and over and they never ever change. They did this when Bill Clinton was President and lost everything. They did it with George Bush and lost everything. Every time they have clawed their way back because the gerrymandering of the House. They're going to get to the point where that's not going to work for them anymore; the demographics of this country are changing, and they need to just deal with it.
And the poor desperate hate-filled fear-filled base that they have courted all these years are so full of terror that has been created by the GOP and Fox and The Alex Joneses of the world about Obama and Hillary and The Other that they are supporting someone who they wouldn't even let in their Church doors otherwise. Their prejudice and their hate has taken over their entire moral characters and it's pathetic to watch. 46575. arkymalarky - 10/9/2016 6:33:10 PM Local hit
Big Chuk:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FzwPcyX3AV8
This is the new rural South, and while the white folks may still follow with their parents beliefs politically, that's changing. Quickly. Interracial friendships, relationships and marriages are common here and only older people think about it. Younger people let everybody do whatever they want to do and have varieties of friends and entertainment. Rap and country have blended in ways I never imagined around here.
Parts of the state where it's all white, and the older people here who are white don't like it a bit. But they're not going to change it. As a result the hostility is pretty scary in some places, including where my brother lives in North Arkansas.
46576. arkymalarky - 10/9/2016 7:14:16 PM By the way, I know some of the people that video. 46577. arkymalarky - 10/9/2016 7:24:22 PM Wow. Based on the Tweet Trump posted a little while ago, he's fixing to try to blow up the entire Republican Party. And he might just succeed. 46578. arkymalarky - 10/9/2016 11:21:46 PM All causes shall give way. I am in blood
Stepped in so far that, should I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
Trump is channeling Macbeth 46579. arkymalarky - 10/10/2016 12:29:05 AM Treating this as my blog, it occurs to me that in the first debate Hillary Clinton hit Trump with something they dug up in oppo research. I bet she does it again tonight and catches him off guard, because he's expecting her to deal with his videos and other things that have come out on what he said on Howard Stern, etc. If she does that his personality will not allow him to do what he plans to do. 46580. arkymalarky - 10/10/2016 12:29:32 AM And of course, what he plans to do is absolutely anyone's guess. 46581. judithathome - 10/10/2016 1:57:12 AM Well, I know one person who is thankful for Trump and that is Pat Buchanan...prior to tonight, he has been known as the most disgusting candidate ever to appear in a Presidential debate.
I am thinking that since a few networks showing THIS debate tonight are considering running a "may not besuitable for children" warning prior to tonight's debate have passed THAT baton to Trump and Buchanan can rest easier. 46582. arkymalarky - 10/10/2016 4:56:52 AM Well that was anticlimactic.
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