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46676. arkymalarky - 11/9/2016 3:56:49 PM Two things that I I thought about over a sleepless night. One is that this false Equalization by the media the infotainment aspect and the their inability 2 call what they saw and not as Judith said give Trump a free Mega phone. The second is the growing alt right media that started so many years ago with Rush Limbaugh and grew with drudge and reached its Acme with Breitbart. This is hate, pure and simple. And a lot of people who either voted third-party or voted for Trump in the Rust Belt and out west because they thought he would bring jobs back are going to be sorely disappointed when that doesn't happen, and instead we get an economy in trouble and kids going to college with no chance of Ever Getting Any debt relief. 46677. arkymalarky - 11/9/2016 4:00:25 PM Democrats as a party are really unified, but since Howard Dean left they have totally neglected Grassroots and local campaigning. It's ironic that trump talked about his rallies as evidence of his support, but the Democrats had massive Rallies that were very well attended and sent people out to volunteer, but they didn't build a network of democratic conversations with college kids and neighborhoods and social media that the righy wing has constructed over the last years. So now that hijacked the Republican Party in the country, and there's not a lot the passengers on this little ship of State can do about the direction it's headed, whether they voted for Trump or not. 46678. alistairconnor - 11/9/2016 4:57:22 PM Hello, dear American friends. Hello, everyone except the Angry White Men. (Well, hello to the Angry White Men too, as long as they're angry at Trump).
Welcome to the post-industrial western world. Where Capital is in the driver's seat, and Labour is either hanging on by its fingernails, or has already fallen by the wayside. The demagogues claim it's all the Other People's fault, and you get Brexit, and you get Trump. In France, we have an election coming next year...
I don't have much hope, but as somebody said, one doesn't need hope to persevere.
To quote Gramsci : "The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear."
I actually prefer Žižek's paraphrase : "The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters." 46679. arkymalarky - 11/9/2016 5:46:21 PM I guess 8 years of Hope was all that we were worthy of it. It sure was a great 8 years tho. 46680. arkymalarky - 11/9/2016 5:47:59 PM Well it was nice that le pen congratulated trump. 46681. arkymalarky - 11/9/2016 8:52:45 PM Headed to be grandparents. Trump literally put Mose into labor. She was stressing and went to bed before the results came in, woke up at 2:30 in the morning, made the mistake of looking, went into a full-blown panic attack and started contractions after that. 46682. judithathome - 11/9/2016 11:53:23 PM Look at the others in that article who did the same...bigots attract bigots. 46683. judithathome - 11/9/2016 11:59:16 PM OMG...good luck to all of you!
Send our love to the parents and the new addition to the Arky clan! 46684. arkymalarky - 11/10/2016 12:31:31 AM I will. I'll send you a picture soon as I get one and no and wabbit too. 46685. judithathome - 11/10/2016 12:41:30 AM OMG...RICK fucking PERRY just announced that HE has been contacted by Donald Trump for a "position" in the Trump administration....
Water seeks its own level! You heard it here first! 46686. arkymalarky - 11/10/2016 3:34:57 AM I hope it's not head of the department he doesn't remember. 46687. winstonsmith - 11/10/2016 9:52:27 PM Only around 50% of eligible voters turned out. Sadly, Trump voters showed up and he won. There will be a mid term election in two years. Time to start picking good candidates now and working on get out the vote plans. Historically, Democrats show up in low numbers for mid terms. It would be difficult (but very possible if more people show up) to take back the Senate. If we could take back the Senate, and if Ginsburg can hold on for two years, maybe we could just limit them to replacing Scalia and Thomas. 46688. arkymalarky - 11/10/2016 10:01:07 PM The thing is, the Democrats are going to have to do what the alt right's been doing 4 years, and that is to micro Grassroots Network. 308 radio and hate internet and some of these rural churches and communities, they've been disseminating a message generally filled with a lot of misinformation that's been flying under the radar for years. Nobody is considered rural voters important because they've never had any impact until this election. There is no structure for that with the Democrats to counter the hate and fear that's been propagated for so long among struggling real people. Hillarys ground game may have been excellent, but you have to cultivate and the Democratic party hasn't really bothered to do that since howard dean as far as I'm concerned. Maybe we can manage it without the racism and hate and fear, but Democratic party has to have something to offer Rural America and they just don't. For people out here, things as simple as rural Broadband would be great but nobody's doing it. All the right-wing does is give lip-service and keep them hating "other" and they never have to deliver anything and they never have to improve anything and the Democratic party offers nothing in the way of an alternative anybody out here can see, so really in retrospect the outcome is not that surprising. What's surprising is that the rural white people turned out in force, and that's because they finally felt they had someone they wanted to vote for. They did not want to vote for McCain or Romney. 46689. arkymalarky - 11/10/2016 10:01:33 PM For years.... 46690. judithathome - 11/10/2016 11:15:43 PM Only around 50% of eligible voters turned out.
This is sooo sad that in a free democracy, people don't even understand what a privilege being able to vote really IS...many countries around the world would...and have...fought for this very thing...the right to vote. 46691. iiibbb - 11/11/2016 12:29:50 AM I am beside myself... 46692. arkymalarky - 11/11/2016 3:22:20 AM I feel you 3i. I got things I want to think about and be happy about, but it keeps encroaching like a death. 46693. wabbit - 11/11/2016 8:02:55 PM So here's my thinking on this whole President Trump thing...as bad as it might be, it could get worse. Look behind Trump. Perhaps he'll resign once he realizes he actually has to do something besides self-promote. Or he'll resign because having been President for a year was enough to make him a genuine billionaire. Or he'll do or say something (can't help himself) and the Republican party stalwarts will go along with impeachment and move him out so they can have Pence. Frankly, that being the choice, I prefer Trump.
Sheesh. 46694. judithathome - 11/11/2016 9:08:24 PM Just wait until Trump tries to get the Reps to put something up for a debate/vote and they refuse...he'll find out how Obama has felt for 8 years! 46695. judithathome - 11/12/2016 12:59:30 AM I wonder if ANYONE thinks Trump is going to "do" half the things he claimed he would do on day one? Or at any time during his "reign"....today alone he has said he may not get rid of ObamaCare completely.
What do you think he will back off on tomorrow....or in one month, two months time?
The man is a fraud...he appealled to people who were pissed off about the election of a black man to the highest office in the land and he was able to convice these malcontents that a SHYSTER was better than someone with intelligence and compassion for the least amomg us.
I seriously wish Biden had run....
However, reality tells me it is highly unlikely for a Democrat to win after 8 years of another Democrat....it's as though the country needs to hit bottom before before they see the light.
And trust me...it's going to be a ROUGH bottom landing for everyone.
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