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46798. Iiibbb - 1/10/2017 2:39:26 PM I don't mean 50 yr infrastructure. I mean modern nucleat. Standardized designs, fuel recycling, or better yet, 4th gen molten salt designs that physically can't melt down and use everything up.
Fossil fuels are worse and arguably we aren't doing a good job with that waste either. 46799. Ms. No - 1/10/2017 11:43:59 PM There have been exponentially more mishaps with fossil fuels than with nuclear. 46800. Ms. No - 1/10/2017 11:45:16 PM I would imagine we are more careful with nuclear materials because everyone can really and truly imagine and fear nuclear fallout and radiation poisoning while they have a hard time projecting into the future where global warming wipes us out like the dinosaurs. 46801. Trillium - 1/11/2017 8:18:47 PM Energy is an area that I don't know a lot about, and I went to try and learn more about salt reactors. This is an interesting site, and they reference the labs in Oak Ridge TN (ORNL) where I have some personal connections.
What is nuclear.com
Problems with Molten Salt Reactors
All those wonderful benefits can’t possibly come without a slew of problems. Lots of people promote these reactors without acknowledging the issues, but not us! A reactor concept has to stand on its two feet even in the face of disadvantages (and we think the MSR can do this). Let’s go through them.
"Mobile fission products...If lithium is used in the salt, tritium will be produced, which is radioactive and extremely mobile (since it is small, it can go through metal like a hot knife through butter). ORNL used a special sodium fluoroborate intermediate salt to capture most of it, but a large amount still escaped to the environment...."
46802. Trillium - 1/11/2017 8:24:05 PM Runaway rad still an issue at Oak Ridge sewer plant
"OAK RIDGE — In early 2014, evidence of radioactive pollution was discovered in the city of Oak Ridge's sewage treatment facility on the west side of town.
"The unwelcome surprise was blamed on technetium-99 that had migrated from a demolition project at the federal government's K-25 uranium-enrichment plant on the other side of the Clinch River.
"The radioactive contaminants, which can be mobile in the environment, had infiltrated pipelines leading to the sewer system. Although the radioactivity reportedly didn't not pose a health threat to workers at the plant or drinking water supplies in the area, it prompted a number of cleanup actions — including efforts to remove the technetium in the sewage treatment systems.
"Over the past two years, about 75,000 gallons of radioactive sludge have been removed from the city facility and shipped out west for treatment and eventual disposal. But the Oak Ridge problem still hasn't been resolved fully, and it's not clear when it will be..." 46803. iiibbb - 1/12/2017 4:58:57 AM I work at Oak Ridge. It is a mess there. I'm not sure how their legacy issues are relevant for evaluating modern nuclear power and safety. For one the wide variety of technology that was developed and tested there. Second, since it is located on karst topography, it's about the worst place in the world for such a facility.
Look to France for a modern nuclear model.
There are molten salt reactors going online in Russia and China. There's more than one kind.
Again, I am not dismissing their risk. I'm just saying comparatively speaking, I consider Fossil Fuels to be far far worse.
46804. Trillium - 1/12/2017 4:10:02 PM Googled and found the following World Nuclear Association link in an article at Daily Caller. These paragraphs describe the basic categories, and I edited slightly, adding paragraph breaks to make it easier to read:
World Nuclear Association
"Several generations of reactors are commonly distinguished:
Generation I reactors were developed in 1950-60s, and outside the UK none are still running today.
Generation II reactors are typified by the present US and French fleets and most in operation elsewhere.
So-called Generation III (and III+) are the advanced reactors discussed in this paper, though the distinction from Generation II is arbitrary. The first are in operation in Japan and others are under construction or ready to be ordered.
Generation IV designs are still on the drawing board and will not be operational before 2020 at the earliest.
"About 85% of the world's nuclear electricity is generated by reactors derived from designs originally developed for naval use." 46805. Trillium - 1/12/2017 4:21:30 PM Recent Nov. 2016 news about French nuclear energy issues
"Industry regulators have shut down 20 French nuclear reactors, causing power prices to spike across Europe.
The reactors were shut down due to a scandal about sub-standard parts....France’s production of nuclear power has been steadily falling since May, according to Reuters, largely due to a law passed by the French government last November intended to prop up solar power. The law requires the country to reduce its share of nuclear energy production from 75 percent to only 50 percent by 2025.
"The legislation could force...the country’s state-controlled utility, to close 18 to 20 of its 58 nuclear reactors by 2025. France’s nuclear industry is one of the most advanced in the world and is still very active in developing nuclear technology and is building some of the world’s most advanced reactors." 46806. Trillium - 1/12/2017 4:29:47 PM Link from Powermag on France's reactors:
France's nuclear storm: Many power plants down due to quality concerns
"The discovery of widespread carbon segregation problems in critical nuclear plant components has crippled the French power industry—20 of the country’s 58 reactors are currently offline and under heavy scrutiny. France’s nuclear safety chairman said more anomalies “will likely be found,” as the extent of the contagion is still being uncovered."
46807. judithathome - 1/20/2017 8:15:21 PM Well, it is clear Trump didn't actually write the speech he gave today...Black Friday.
And he SNIFFED throughout the entire thing.
Good luck, America...hope you are prepared for Armageddon.
"America FIRST!" He has no idea this "cry" was started by a communist sympathizer, Charles Lindbergh, while running for President. 46808. arkymalarky - 1/21/2017 12:58:51 AM obama.org 46809. arkymalarky - 1/22/2017 5:05:04 AM Wow. What a day. I'm truly beginning to suspect that I Walked Through a Wormhole somewhere around November 8th. This is just surreal.
Marches were great though. Got some pictures some people we know in different parts of the country, and one of our good friends went to DC. Hadn't heard from her yet, but I'm sure she had a blast. Course she has a blast everywhere She Goes. 46810. wombat - 1/22/2017 6:28:44 AM All the pink-hatted grooviness on display today will not mean sh-t if it is not followed up by voting. And by not wasting votes. 46811. arkymalarky - 1/22/2017 7:05:21 AM Lots of focus on organizing at the grassroots level like I've never seen before. A lot of what caused problems was the DNC's lack of effort at the state and local levels. I saw that hete. There is no excuse for Dems not controlling the Senate. If the next two years goes like today and the Dems shift in the ways they're promising to, especially if the GOP continues to overreach and Trump continues to implode, 2018 will see a major shift back toward Dems.
Having been a community organizer, I cringed at what the Dems were failing to do at the local level which made it hard for people running as Dems to win. But new DNC leadership will help, plus Obama's new initiatives, and people are really using social media and the Indivisible guide to mobilize. The Congress app is great, too.
Who knows, but 32% approval for Trump with 60+ for Obama, and a terrible horrible no good first day plus a record-breaking worldwide protest are all hopeful signs of a shift. 46812. judithathome - 1/24/2017 4:19:17 AM CBS Confirms That Trump Brought Cheering Props To CIA Appearance 46813. judithathome - 1/24/2017 4:21:12 AM Quote from article:
CBS News confirmed reports that President Donald Trump brought a studio audience to his visit with the CIA on Saturday. The news agency reports that an official said the visit left a wake of “unease,” “made relations with the intelligence community worse,” and was “uncomfortable.”
Intelligence people were “stunned” and “offended by the president’s tone,” CBS reported U.S. government sources tell CBS News that there is a sense of unease in the intelligence community after President Trump’s visit to CIA headquarters on Saturday.”
Also, Trump did bring cheering props, which fits with how he has operated previously in requiring a cheering section – a sort of laugh track of supportive extras like those his campaign hired for his announcement event. It has been confirmed by Trump insiders that the President loves props.
“Authorities are also pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president. They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign,” CBS continued.
46814. judithathome - 1/25/2017 5:08:21 AM I'm serious...I cannot believe we are waking up every day to having this asshole as our President....I'm to the point I don't even CARE if I wake up every day..... 46815. judithathome - 1/25/2017 9:08:09 AM Jesus H. Christ...I just watched the first 20 minutes of Rachel Maddows show...if you missed it, check out her website tomorrow and WATCH IT.
This man who was put in the White House has done what I, for one, consider an open ATTACK on our country and has actually banned the agency he attacked...the EPA...from telling anyone about it.
I was hesitant to label him Hitler but after you see this portion of her show, I have no idea what to call him if not dangerously close to being a Hitler-esque tyrant...full on, including forbidding anyone working at the agency from talking to the press about what was just done....luckily some brave souls ARE talking about it...with printed evidence of what he's just done...and no doubt, will do far worse as the days stack up.
edit: Here Is A Link WATCH IT!!!! 46816. Trillium - 1/26/2017 4:34:52 AM This could also go on International -- but posted it here because Gabbard is unquestionably a U.S. domestic political leader who commands respect
Tulsi Gabbard on CNN re: Iraq visit
Tulsi Gabbard went on CNN, called out past U.S. support for murder and mayhem in Syria 46817. Trillium - 1/26/2017 5:31:59 AM More complete video of Gabbard's post-Syria interview with Tapper
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