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47260. wabbit - 9/13/2019 1:13:10 AM Interesting. A year ago I thought Warren was unelectable.
btw, Happy (belated) Birthday to the Mote, I think it was 20 years ago yesterday we went live. 47261. winstonsmith - 9/14/2019 2:30:13 AM Yeah, same here. Her polling has improved a lot. Still not sure how she would fare in a general election matchup with the voters who will show up, in the states that will decide the election. 47262. winstonsmith - 9/14/2019 2:31:20 AM Wow, 20 years! 47263. bhelpuri - 9/19/2019 12:49:22 PM happy birthday to Le Mote! 47264. Jenerator - 9/24/2019 3:51:58 AM Hi all - I know it's been a few years, I can't believe I remember my password!
Anyway - I hope all of you are doing well. I sincerely wish you the very best and that you're enjoying life. 47265. Ms. No - 9/24/2019 4:09:01 AM Good gravy! It's Jenerator! Good to see you. Hope you're doing well. 47266. arkymalarky - 9/24/2019 7:16:22 PM Hey Jen! How have you been doing? Great to see you. 47267. arkymalarky - 9/24/2019 7:17:26 PM Since this is politics thread which is why I popped in here, looks like shit is finally hitting fan. 47268. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 1:31:10 AM Wow, looks like they are actually going to impeach him in the house! Still does not seem likely the Senate will remove him but he will at least go down in history as one of the few who were impeached. 47269. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 1:33:20 AM If somehow, he was convicted in the senate and removed before the election, could he still run again in 2020? 47270. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 1:35:45 AM If somehow, he was convicted in the senate and removed before the election, could he still run again in 2020? 47271. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 1:36:26 AM hmm, looks like people on Politico and elsewhere are saying that he could run again 47272. arkymalarky - 9/27/2019 3:19:03 PM There's nothing in the Constitution that says he couldn't. I'm shifting how I think about all of this. I think it's very possible the Senate could remove him and if they do he won't be back. If McConnell had to choose between keeping a senate majority and keeping Trump he would keep the Senate majority in a heartbeat.
47273. arkymalarky - 9/27/2019 3:20:27 PM I also think McConnell's looking at the prospect of trying to control that idiot for 4 more years. I don't think he really relishes the idea. 47274. arkymalarky - 9/27/2019 3:21:34 PM I also wouldn't be surprised if he resigns with a sour grapes rant. I think if he weren't scared of going to jail that's what his preference would be. Because a lot of shit that he has been successfully keeping in the dark up to now is going to be exposed. 47275. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 9:29:15 PM Can you imagine all those people who were on that call and all their assistants and other staff lawyering up and having to deal with Trumps mood? All of them just waiting to be called to testify. Trying to figure out how to parse their testimony to put them in the least jeopardy. The White House will be trying to coach them and threatening them. They will be in a vice between perjury and Trump's vindictiveness. 47276. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 9:32:39 PM I suppose The White house will try to assert executive privilege for most of them in the hopes of keeping the from testifying. 47277. arkymalarky - 9/28/2019 12:06:44 AM You're so right. Lawyers are going to make a lot of money in the DC area. I'm watching Barr, and I'm watching comments of people who knew Trump in New York. Their speculations on how different this is and how Trump is going to respond are very interesting. He's always been able to walk away from failure in the past and just pretend it didn't happen. He doesn't have that option now. 47278. arkymalarky - 9/28/2019 12:07:53 AM One thing they all know, he will do anything to anyone to save his own hide. 47279. wabbit - 10/3/2019 1:14:23 AM Do you think he'd throw Ivanka under the bus? I've long thought she was the only one who was safe.
McConnell will save his own ass first and foremost, and if that means removing Trump, why not? He gets Pence, who won't be as difficult, and sadly, "appears" to be reasonable, even though he'd install whatever the Christian version of Sharia law is in a flash.
How can you trust a man who can't trust himself? As crazy as Trump's marriages may seem, imho Pence's is way stranger. But that's just me.
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