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5213. wonkers2 - 10/16/2006 5:23:53 AM Jexter, have you actually ever been to Detroit? I doubt is or you wouldn't make such ignorant remarks. By the way, when you grew up down on a Louisiana bayou, how old were you before you got your first pair of shoes? 5214. wabbit - 10/16/2006 3:07:28 PM 
After reviewing a sideline-clearing brawl between players from Miami and Florida International, officials from both schools and their conferences on Sunday announced the suspension of 31 players -- 13 from the Hurricanes, and 18 from FIU.
Each suspended player must sit out his team's next game for taking part in the ugly melee that marred the teams' Saturday matchup. Miami plays at Duke on Saturday, FIU plays at Alabama Oct. 28.
More sanctions are still possible, officials from both schools said Sunday night.
"These suspensions send a clear and definitive message that this type of behavior will not be tolerated," said Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford... Are these people serious? A clear and definitive message consists of sitting out one game? The players are laughing their asses off in the locker room. One game, big deal. Sitting out the rest of the season should be the minimum for some of them.
5215. wabbit - 10/17/2006 3:18:04 PM  Please, someone save us from this jackass.
Mike Tyson said fans should not expect much of a fight when he steps back into the ring.
But the 40-year-old former heavyweight champ promised an entertaining show Friday night when he launches the "Mike Tyson's World Tour" in Youngstown.
At a news conference at an Italian restaurant, Tyson said he would likely go just four rounds and that future stops on the tour might include bouts with women, possibly professional boxer Ann Wolfe.
Wolfe, from Waco, Texas, is 21-1 with 15 knockouts.
"She's such a prominent, dominant woman in the boxing field," Tyson said.
When asked if he was joking about fighting women, Tyson said, "I'm very serious."
Russ Young, a promoter for Wolfe, said such a bout will never happen.
"That's the first we've heard of it," Young said. "No state would sanction that. She would be outweighed by 60 to 70 pounds. Ann would never entertain the idea." ... Don't count on that bit about no state sanctioning the fight. Hopefully she still has enough brain cells intact to say no.
 Six turnovers, 3 points on offense, and somehow the Chicago Bears are still unbeaten. Somehow, some way, the Bears rallied from 20 points down at halftime and escaped with a 24-23 victory in Arizona on Monday night, leaving the shellshocked Cardinals to ponder yet another excruciating late-game collapse.
The Bears are off to their best start in 20 years at 6-0. For that, they can thank their defense, punt returner Devin Hester and Arizona kicker Neil Rackers. Rex Grossman gets no credit for this one...
The University of Miami extended the suspension of one player and said further disciplinary measures will be taken in the wake of a sideline-clearing brawl with Florida International. Sophomore safety Anthony Reddick was suspended indefinitely following further consultation Monday with the Atlantic Coast Conference, the school said. Reddick charged across the field, helmet raised over his head, and slammed it into an opposing player during the melee.
Meanwhile, the Golden Panthers took a much harsher stance — dismissing two players, Chris Smith and Marshall McDuffie Jr., and extending the suspensions of all other 16 sanctioned players indefinitely.
Much more appropriate, if the schools stick to their guns. I hope Reddick isn't the only player Miami is looking at for extended suspension.
5216. wabbit - 10/17/2006 3:18:29 PM  The starting pitchers are rested and the days off are done. Now, the NL championship series comes down to a best-of-three. Daylong rain caused Game 5 between New York and St. Louis to be postponed Monday, meaning Mets lefty Tom Glavine and Jeff Weaver of the Cardinals will start Tuesday night on full rest. The teams are tied at two games each in the best-of-seven playoff. Game 5 was rescheduled for 8:19 p.m. EDT at Busch Stadium. For the second time in the NLCS, the clubs will travel without a day off. They'll play Game 6 at Shea Stadium in New York on Wednesday night, as scheduled, with a potential Game 7 the following night.
Lou Piniella's coming to Wrigley Field, agreeing Monday to a three-year contract to manage the Chicago Cubs and accepting a job that has long been one of the most challenging in baseball. His assignment: Get to the playoffs and win a championship with a franchise that hasn't been to a World Series since 1945 and hasn't won one since 1908. Piniella replaces Dusty Baker, another veteran manager with a strong resume, who left after four years when his contract was not renewed following a 66-96 last-place finish in the NL.
Ken Macha managed the Oakland Athletics into the AL championship series, yet it still wasn't enough to save his job. Macha was fired by the Athletics on Monday, two days after the West champions were swept out of the playoffs by Detroit. The A's did not announce a replacement. Bench coach Bob Geren was considered a top candidate.
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5217. iiibbb - 10/17/2006 3:22:50 PM Landis releases his testing documents. I have to say I beleive Landis now.
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For the synopsis, look at the Floy Landis SS_final.pdf file. There is no excuse for the lab's mishandling of the samples, or the misreporting of results (take note of the Carbon Isotope Test results among others).
The mislabeling of samples is also bad news for the lab (or at least should be). 5218. iiibbb - 10/17/2006 3:25:44 PM Message # 5214
And several of them are sitting out the rest of the season... I think one of the UFI students was thrown off the team forever.
I do hate Miami though. 5219. iiibbb - 10/17/2006 3:27:11 PM Oops... jsut saw your follow-up 5220. wabbit - 10/17/2006 3:53:18 PM Two things about Landis:
- He is smart to release these documents to the public. Since the press is primarily interested in scandal, they should be able to sink their small pointy teeth into something here. Especially since the bulk of the gruntwork has been done for them.
- I have to agree with you; looking at that synopsis, how did anyone ever come to the conclusion that Landis was doping?
Landis may be guilty of doping, or not, but it sure doesn't look like this series of lab tests are anywhere close to proving he was. 5221. wonkers2 - 10/18/2006 4:35:00 AM W2's Sailing Pics from San Francisco Bay. 5222. alistairconnor - 10/18/2006 10:08:04 AM Cycling is full of money, conspiracy theories, and dope. I believe that dope tests have been scientifically designed to avoid positive tests for years.
I have no idea what happened with Floyd. Why would the Powers that Be conspire to falsely accuse him, when the sport is already reeling from true doping scandals? Rogue lab technicians, determined to frame someone after years of seeing cheats get off scot-free? Sheer incompetence, as portrayed in this dossier? Opinions? 5223. iiibbb - 10/18/2006 3:16:04 PM - Because _their_ guy isn't winning?
- Because they were paid by some other team (if you can't dope... make it look like their guy did)?
- Of course never underestimate sheer incompitance, and administrative tunnel vision. It could be that the cylcing powers that be think they're doing the right thing, but that the lab simply made a HUGE mistake. 5224. alistairconnor - 10/18/2006 3:44:32 PM Because _their_ guy isn't winning?
Who might he be? I want names! (there hasn't been a credible French candidate in a decade...)
I'm beginning to think the three-week bicycle race is fundamentally a bad idea, because the human organism can't keep up that level of intense athletic effort without cheating.
How about replacing the Tour de France with ten one-day events, spread over a month, with two rest days between each stage? 5225. wabbit - 10/18/2006 4:36:49 PM I don't know that we'll ever know the who, if there is one (or more). The samples could have been mishandled/mislabeled right from the time of collection. Lab incompetence in this case seems obvious, but that might be dealt with by sending samples to a few different labs. Maybe someone simply screwed up and in an attempt to hide their error, the whole thing snowballed into a huge mess. I doubt anyone will be coming forward to confess to either collusion or incompetence.
What I would like to know is who decided to go forward with testing the Landis sample in the first place. From the synopsis, it looks like that shouldn't have happened (see screen 10 of the Floyd Landis SS_final.pdf). Or is this synopsis misinterpreting the rules?
AC, isn't there some discussion going on about rethinking the TdF format? I swear I read something about just that very idea not more than a month ago. 5226. wabbit - 10/18/2006 4:42:28 PM Message # 5221 - great pics, wonkers2! 5227. iiibbb - 10/18/2006 5:31:53 PM Message # 5224
You were caught by my rouse... I don't believe in conspiracy.
Besides... if you believe that Landis was despirate enough to cheat with such and obvious method; given there are supposively a miriad of ways to cheat that can't be detected (according to LeMond and others)... then why is it so hard to believe that someone would buy off a lab worker to spike Landis' samples?
Regardless, what I think happened was simply a lab error, and I don't necessarily assing any malevolence to it. A lab mistake is very plausible, particularly mislabling of samples. I've made such mistakes many times myself... and I consider myself to be very diligent about such things. I am diligent because when you make a labling error or whatnot it often means a trip back out to the field, or restarting a procedure.
So what Wabbit says is plausible. Somebody botched the chain of custody or a lab procedure and it's snowballed to the point that they'd be stupid to admit it now. The only thing the lab can do is change it's protocols for future tests. They can't salvage this whether someone thinks Landis was guilty or not.
So if there is a conspiracy... I would tend to think it is coming out of administrative side of cycling, which does seem to be highly influenced by politics. It doesn't seem that far of a stretch that they're driving the adgenda. The TDF organizers already consider Landis to not be the winner (before everything is settled). The cycling powers that be thing it is crazy to question a lab's proceedures. The tests were leaked prematurely to the press.
So a conspiracy from within cylcling seems as plausible as Landis cheating using such an unsophisticated and easily detected method... if we are to beleive it is so easy to hide cheating these days. 5228. alistairconnor - 10/18/2006 5:59:40 PM It's possible that, following a botched lab job and a possibly malevolent leak indicating a positive test for Landis, the authorities felt obliged to declare him guilty. Think how bad it would have looked if they'd "covered it up"!
In this scenario, Floyd is definitely a scapegoat. 5229. jexster - 10/19/2006 2:24:35 PM I love that comedian on Imus..hate Imus..love comedian
Omar Minaya Thank ju for that uninspired welcome you maricones!
I hate Tony Larussa..GO METS! Battle of the Macacans the The WS
You gotta believe! 5230. wabbit - 10/20/2006 3:57:09 PM  Justin Rose dropped his putter, put his hands on his knees and dropped his head. He paused, looked up and managed a wry smile, knowing just how close he came to shooting a 59 on Thursday. Rose missed a 14-foot birdie putt on No. 18, leaving him a stroke away from matching the PGA Tour record shared by Al Geiberger (1977), Chip Beck (1991) and David Duval (1999). The 26-year-old Englishman settled for a 12-under 60, course and tournament records, and a four-stroke lead Thursday in the Funai Classic at Disney.
Rose hit a 6-iron from 190 yards on the 433-yard 18th. The ball bounced 6 inches from the hole, rolled past and stopped near the fringe. Rose tipped his hat several times as he walked toward the green and couldn't stop smiling. He lined up the putt from both sides, took two practice swings, then pulled it just left. After his initial reaction, he tapped in for his best round ever on the PGA Tour, three shots better than his previous low set in the 2002 Deutsche Bank Championship and matched in the 2004 Canadian Open.
Richard Johnson was alone in second place, four shots back. Tag Ridings, Steve Flesch, Bob Tway, Charles Howell III and J.J. Henry were five strokes behind Rose.
Howell's 65 may have been the most impressive considering he played the much tougher Magnolia Course. The others, including Rose and Johnson, played the Palm Course -- the easiest course on tour last year by nearly a full stroke. Howell will play the Palm in the second round Friday, while Rose and the rest of the leaders move to the Mag, which played about a stroke and a half tougher than the Palm on Thursday.
5231. wabbit - 10/20/2006 3:57:49 PM  The first long drive to left field wound up in the webbing of Endy Chavez's glove as he crashed against the wall. The second one sailed clear over his head. And that's what sent Yadier Molina and the St. Louis Cardinals to the World Series. Molina's tiebreaking homer in the ninth inning and another Game 7 gem by Jeff Suppan helped St. Louis overcome Chavez's astounding grab, giving the Cardinals a 3-1 victory over the New York Mets on a rainy Thursday night for the NL championship.
Adam Wainwright wriggled out of a bases-loaded jam in the bottom of the ninth, striking out St. Louis nemesis Carlos Beltran to end it and leaving a stunned crowd in deflated silence just moments after it had Shea Stadium shaking.
With that, the Cardinals earned their second pennant in three years and a date with the Detroit Tigers on Saturday night in Game 1 of the World Series.
Sorry, Jexster. Maybe next year...
5232. wonkers2 - 10/21/2006 6:19:10 PM I wonder what the Vegas odds are. Probably the Tigers are favored a bit?
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