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6205. Wombat - 7/15/2004 2:31:53 AM

Thoughtful:

Apparently not.

6206. arkymalarky - 7/15/2004 3:21:47 AM

There was a study on nuns and ovarian cancer some years ago which suggested the same thing.

6207. thoughtful - 7/20/2004 3:22:07 AM

See? Mom was right. Eat your vegetables!

Vegetables Rich in Anti-oxidants May Help Protect Against Alzheimer’s

6208. wonkers2 - 7/20/2004 9:26:36 AM

"Do You Remember Me? A Father, a Daughter and a Search for the Self by Judith Levine

Heard a mostly depressing interview with Judith Levine about her book which recounts her relationship with her father as a child, an adult and, more recently, since he developed Alzheimer's. According to her recent claims of Aracept?'s benefits for Alzheimer's are bogus. According to her the benefits flow from defining Alzheimer's down to early stages, not from help for people with Alzheimers. Besides that the drug is expensive and the benefits, if any, are small. According to her the only thing to do about Alzheimer's is to try to continue the patient's social relationships as long as possible. A cheery caller from a hospice group called and pointed out that hospice care can be helpful in late stage Alzheimers. Levine's father requires 24-hour care in his NYC apartment (care givers paid $7/hour and do a heroic job) and can't even go to the bathroom by himself, let alone do any cooking. Depressing thought. Remind me to get a friendly doctor to provide me with an effective pill in case I have the courage to end it before my mind is completely gone. I think I am already since the program this morning beginning to have some of the early symptoms she described! (I had to google to get her name for this post, and for a while today I thought it was Wednesday, not Tuesday.)

6209. wonkers2 - 7/20/2004 9:31:51 AM

And this afternoon at the wake of a former co-worker I couldn't remember the names of a couple of other co-workers when introducing them to my wife. Scary.

6210. thoughtful - 7/20/2004 9:41:28 PM

another nyt article on toe fungus and how expensive it is to treat and how many treatments risk problems such as liver disease.

Hah! I had one episode that I got rid of myself without side effects at minimal expense. Got an eyedropper on my night stand and covered the toenail with a few drops of white vinegar every a.m. and every p.m. for about a year. Can't miss even one application...but within a year it was completely gone and hasn't come back. Only side effect was the whiff like a jewish deli every night!

6211. jexster - 7/21/2004 1:29:04 AM

Just noticed the "Topic"..does HIV cause AIDS?


Five blocks from where I sit is the headquarters of ACTUP-SF an organization of nuts who has been spearheading this nutty crapola for years now.

Its founders were HIV+.

May they rest in peace.


Yes HIV does cause AIDS.


I know from personal experience and now sadly so do they.

6212. msgreer - 7/21/2004 2:38:37 AM

hi wonkers2

After taking care of my father who had Alzheimers for and then his sister and then his brother I have a healthy appreciation for this horrific disease. You said something about taking a pill should you get this dreaded disease. I am with you. There is no way I would live (?) with Alzheimers knowing what it does to the caretaker. My mother and I took care of dad for eight years. I am sure the stress of those eight years and then more for me as I helped out with other family members..has taken years off my life. No. Should I get Alzheimers I will take full advantage of dying with dignity.

As for Aricept it does very very little. The doctors I have worked with give it to the patient to meet the families needs. My advice. Eat well. Keep the inflammatory process reduced in your body, exercise, take Vitamin C and E and pray alot.

Aricept is in the news again for many reasons. One is because of AA coming out with new guidelines for MCI..Mild Cognitive Impairment. As far as I am concerned this new MCI is bull. In studies 87% of those with MCI go on to full blown Alzheimers.That said how a doctor can truly tell if someone is just going through the natural aging process and forgetful some of the time or actually has MCI I do not know.

Simply put...take care of someone with Alzheimers and you too will be able to tell the difference between aging normally and this disease. I've been close to it a good part of my life. I honestly believe I will not need a neurologist to ask me to count back by 7s to see if I have the disease. I will know.

On that cheery note I will post this...and say hi wonkers! It's been awhile. I am well. My daughter is doing fantastic. Good to see you.

6213. wabbit - 7/21/2004 3:15:27 AM

Hey Ms. G, good to hear your daughter is doing well. I knew some of the people involved with the bike ride, I was going to work on a website for them a few years ago (but my boss nixed that when he didn't get what he wanted for freebies, what a jerk).

My grandmother had Alzheimers and wasted away over a number of years. We watch my father carefully for symptoms. So far, so good.

6214. msgreer - 7/21/2004 3:20:37 AM

HI WABBIT! That 20 mile race was great for my daughter. Then again I love Special Olympics. She participates in so many SO events. Living in MA with the Kennedys always means there are great celebrations after such an event.

I am sorry to hear about your grandmother. You can bet your father is watching himself too! Some people won't come out and say they are fearful but inside..somewhere..all of us who have Alzheimers in the family feel this way. Luckily my sisters and I have discussed the what if scenario and we all have made plans.

It's good to see you young lady! If you do work on the bike race next year let me know. I would love for you to meet my daughter.

6215. wabbit - 7/21/2004 3:26:38 AM

Sounds like a plan. I'm moving back to NY in a couple months, so it is unlikely I'll be working on that website, but stranger things have happened. And I'm back and forth to MA all the time, so if she's riding next year, let me know and we'll see what we can work out.

6216. msgreer - 7/21/2004 3:29:30 AM

You're leaving Boston? Tell me it's just for the convention and you will be back.No, I wish you well in NYC. I am just finding it difficult seeing you in NYC after loving Boston all these years. I will keep in touch about my daughter. What email are you using these days? You can reach me at nurseisin@yahoo.com

6217. wabbit - 7/21/2004 3:35:31 AM

Not NYC, I'm just going back to my little house in the Catskills. I miss it out there. Spunky will still be working in MA so we'll be doing a lot of driving, but the cats will be thrilled to be back in NY. I miss NYC too, though, been away too long.

I'm at viwabbit@yahoo.com, among others -- if you have something different from a couple years ago, it probably still works.

6218. msgreer - 7/21/2004 3:37:59 AM

Now the Catskills is an entirely different matter. You will enjoy the peace and the beauty. Just think... Hillary becomes your junior senator! Wrong thread. Sorry. I will update my address book. Thanks. Good luck with the move.

6219. judithathome - 7/21/2004 3:38:33 AM

Hi, MsGreer...good to see you again!

6220. msgreer - 7/21/2004 3:41:36 AM

Good to see you too, Judith.

6221. msgreer - 7/21/2004 3:46:21 AM

What's new with you Judith? You hurt your knee or leg?

6222. wonkers2 - 7/21/2004 3:54:31 AM

MSG, Thanks for the comment! Good to hear from you. If my poor memory is correct you were in Ann Arbor three years or so back. Are you still there? As I recall JJ Biener told me that on the occasion of a visit to Detroit. Wonder what he's doing. He was a relianble GOP poster which currently in short supply in this forum. Regards.

6223. msgreer - 7/21/2004 3:59:52 AM

Oh I have been in and out of Ann Arbor and very busy. As for those who would be apart of the GOP..well I just can't even talk to them about the election in a civil manner. We need this election to be over. I expect any Floria resident whose vote does not get counted to take to the streets! Again using the wrong thread but wanted to reply.

6224. msgreer - 7/21/2004 4:00:51 AM

correction: Florida

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