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6735. alistairConnor - 2/1/2007 10:38:12 PM Didn't think of that! Not the same building Wonk... 6736. alistairConnor - 2/1/2007 10:39:07 PM You can tell when I've been to my girlfriend's place because I shave.
Lucky I don't have a webcam! 6737. thoughtful - 2/1/2007 11:52:55 PM Concerned, while we may disagree in other threads, I'm with you 100% on flax seed oil. Hubby and I have been taking it for a long time and it has made drastic improvements in our aches and pains. We don't mix it though...take is straight from the bottle at night. Yum! 6738. arkymalarky - 2/3/2007 10:43:11 PM I've got one of those "meant to have asked, keep forgetting" questions for Mote women.
Last night I was folding clothes and finally remembered a project I've been wanting to do for a long while now--cut the underwire out of all my bras. I hate it, and the ones I wear the most are either sports bras or I've already done the surgery on them. I'm wondering which women do like underwire and why. I could see the benefit of a padded foam support of some sort underneath, but underwire is awful. Even the shape of the wire, with the sharp edges felt through the cloth and tubing, seem designed to cause discomfort, not comfort. 6739. judithathome - 2/3/2007 11:16:00 PM I like my underwire bras but that's because they never poke me or seem uncomfortable. I've only had one that the wire poked through and I threw it out.
I used to be relatively flat-chested...back in the late 60s early 70s I wore a tube top that had FRONT emblazoned on it. Didn't even wear a bra until we moved to Japan in the early 80s. Then I, ahem, "blossomed" and needed bras...I like any bra that is comfortable, lacey, and doesn't make me feel like my boobs are leading me around.
Arky, I wear underwires because I need them but the cups are only satin cloth and not augmented by any foam or anything like that. I don't think you need underwires...you have a great shape and shouldn't need anything but a regular, comfortable (and sexy!) bra. 6740. wabbit - 2/3/2007 11:25:16 PM I can take or leave underwires, but what really drives me crazy are the straps always slipping. Wide-set straps may look good in the VS catalog, but they are a nightmare to wear. Give me a comfy racerback and I'll deal with or without underwires.
Meanwhile, Arky, have a look at these! 6741. arkymalarky - 2/4/2007 3:23:27 AM Thanks, Judith! But it seems like (other than sports bras) my size come with underwire. I usually don't notice until I get them home. It may be that they're too cheaply made or that I tend toward cysts, which might make me more sensitive. All I know is, I love having finally gotten around to removing them. I like them otherwise--they're soft and comfortable, which is why I got them in the first place.
And thanks for the link, Wabbit! 6742. thoughtful - 2/5/2007 3:58:43 PM I used to hate underwires but finally switched over because I was starting to look too matronly and clothes weren't fitting properly. I really need the extra support they give. I'm most frustrated though as I found some for cheap in reading pa outlet in a tent sale and i LOVE them...they look great, fit perfectly, have a great shape and are extremely comfortable. Now I have no idea if I'll ever be able to find them again and buy more. I've never been poked by underwires but find they sometimes can rub uncomfortably against my rib cage.
If you need the support but cant stand underwires, try the 18 hr bra...it's built like a tank.
There's also one maker...warner??...that switched the underwires with plastic that's supposed to be more comfortable. There are also makers that have shortened the wire on the outside so they won't poke under the arm...i believe they're called no poke.
Check out OneHanesPlace...it's a catalog full of bras from various manufacturers and it's a great place to see the options available, of which there are many many many.
6743. wonkers2 - 2/5/2007 4:14:13 PM Cap'n Dirty sez, "A picture's worth a thousand words!" 6744. wonkers2 - 2/5/2007 4:15:56 PM Cap'n "Oops! I jest noticed wabbit's in #6740." 6745. arkymalarky - 2/5/2007 7:25:00 PM The ends don't poke me, it's the feel of the wire itself underneath. I could go the extra and get better made I guess, but I love the ones I have with the wires out. 6746. alistairconnor - 2/5/2007 7:46:37 PM 6740 : what, no bells and whistles? 6747. thoughtful - 2/5/2007 8:03:15 PM Just for Cap'n Dirty, a pic of thoughtful before she got her new bra
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Amazing what a good bra will do, no? 6748. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 2/5/2007 8:24:06 PM or Prozac . . .
 6749. wonkers2 - 2/5/2007 10:39:29 PM The Cap'n sez, very thoughtful of you thoughtful. Thanks. 6750. thoughtful - 2/6/2007 6:19:46 PM Calling all current and future seniors, here's news from Dean Baker's Beat the Press where he beats up on the press for doing such a lousy job. This is incredibly significant and underreported:
In fact, President Bush does propose phasing out Medicare in his new budget, if the NYT got its facts right. According to this article, President Bush proposes to change the rules on the means-testing of Medicare benefits, so that the income current cutoffs of $80,000 for individuals and $160,000 for couples are not indexed.
This means that over time, more and more of the senior population would have to pay premiums that largely cover the cost of their Medicare. In other words, Medicare will no longer be government provided health care for most of the elderly population.
How fast will the benefits phase out? Well in roughly twenty years, the means-testing would be hitting singles who are the same point in the income distribution as someone earning $40,000 a year today, and couples earning $80,000. In forty years, the point at which Social Security is first projected to face a shortfall, the means-testing would be hitting singles who are at the same point in the income distribution as someone earning $20,000 a year today, and couples earning $40,000. In other words, under President Bush's proposal many middle income elderly people would face the loss of their Medicare subsidy before Social Security faces any funding shortfall. A bit further out, and only the poor would still recieve any subsidy through the Medicare program.
After Social Security, Medicare is the country's largest social program. When a president proposes phasing it out, it should be big news. Why aren't the reporters covering it? 6751. wonkers2 - 2/6/2007 11:23:21 PM My former employer recently announced that henceforth, retirees will have to eat any increases in the company health care plan. The effect will be similar to that of Bush's Medicare proposal. 6752. robertjayb - 2/15/2007 5:37:33 AM Why does health care cost so much...(Ezra Klein)
The nonpartisan McKinsey Group has released a study called "Accounting for the Cost of Health Care in the United States." The idea, as the title suggests, is to figure out, in a rigorous and methodical way, why we pay so much more than any other developed country.
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The very short answer is that we pay more for units of care. McKinsey estimates that it is not higher disease prevalence. Differences in health account for only about $25 billion of the variation -- a drop in the bucket. The difference really is that we pay higher doctor salaries, higher drug costs, higher operation costs, more per day in the hospital, etc, etc. In essence, we're getting a terrible deal.
6753. wonkers2 - 2/15/2007 5:01:03 PM A Health Care Plan So Simple, Even Stephen Colbert Couldn't Simplify It
Cobert on Bush health plan: "It's so simple. Most people who can't afford health insurance also are too poor to owe taxes. But if you give them a deduction from the taxes they don't owe, they can use the money they're not getting back from what they haven't given to buy the health care they can't afford."
Robert H. Frank shoots holes in Bush health proposal 6754. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 2/15/2007 10:59:09 PM And the opposite of The Bush Health Plan . . .
Charlie, a Rottweiler mix, whose own mother rejected him, snuggles Wednesday, Feb. 14, 2007 with his substitute mother, Satin, at the Meriden Humane Society in Meriden, Conn. The cat had just had her own litter of kittens and took on Charlie in addition. (AP Photo/Bob Child)
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