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6960. robertjayb - 4/13/2007 11:23:43 PM

For a real keep it simple program look into Dr. Peter Gott's no flour, no sugar diet.

The Skinny on Diets

6961. concerned - 4/13/2007 11:25:43 PM

Re. 6957 -

Clydefo -

Do insects have faces?

6962. concerned - 4/13/2007 11:32:06 PM

Why do producers of vegetarian replacements for meat, milk or egg foods feel it is necessary to price their products anywhere from 50% to 300% higher than the real thing? If they weren't more expensive, I'd buy them (at least much of the time). They're clearly cheaper to produce.

6963. clydefo - 4/14/2007 12:15:34 AM

I disavow any claim to moral superiority because I don't eat animals. It's just a health tip about avoiding unnecessary sources of protein and fat, mercury, animal hormones and antibiotics (things that cause our little girls to need more than training bras). I acknowledge it's optional and say it not with smugness but with a "do as I say, not as I do" attitude.

Nonetheless, and realizing that it may just be weak-minded sentimentality, I do sort of feel sorry for the whales and dolphins and seals. Imagine their anguish and disillusionment and terror at witnessing what their friends from Cozy Cove Marine Encounter Sanctuary are doing to all sea creatures. For sport as well as food; they don't bother to eat the Tarpon. I can't help feeling compassion for the plight of veal calves, foie gras geese, tenter hooked hogs listening to the screams of their litter mates as they advance to the slaughter. Restrictive poultry cages. All an unnecessary inefficient way to reprocess protein. We should just eat the grain ourselves rather than feed it to animals. Far cheaper and healthier.

But I know what you mean about those sanctimonious Vegans. They are menacing, aren't they, with all those smirks, tattoos and motorcycles?

6964. clydefo - 4/14/2007 12:34:00 AM

Do insects have faces?

O.K., I'll bite. Yes.

Maybe reprocessing protein to make fake meat actually costs more. And they are probably advocates of P.T. Barnum's marketing strategies.

6965. concerned - 4/14/2007 2:22:06 AM

Do insects have faces?

O.K., I'll bite. Yes.


Rather ambiguous sounding answer there. I wonder if anyone has ever come up with chocolate covered centipedes.

6966. Wombat - 4/14/2007 2:39:24 AM

Chocolate-covered ants, yes. Ditto fried grasshopers.

6967. clydefo - 4/14/2007 3:06:05 AM

Chocolate covered insects? Far too much fat and protein.

Only baked or grilled grasshoppers. No fried foods.

6968. judithathome - 4/14/2007 6:55:52 PM

Clyde, I wasn't picking on you or making fun...just posting my opinion about personal experience with some obnoxious vegans.

I will admit I feel guilty about eating meat at times; I don't eat veal, at least. But it chaps me when people decked out in leather pumps and carrying leather handbags nag at ME for eating meat. Again, don't mean you personally...though I've no idea what sort of handbag you carry. ;-)

6969. clydefo - 4/14/2007 9:27:21 PM

Handbags. Hummm. I'll pass. I'm "accessories challenged" and I lose things. But be assured, the bag I'm not going to carry is devoid of animal products. I certainly don't begrudge the Inuit and others their "leathers", especially since I am the owner of a genuine replica WWII leather bomber jacket. It's got a three mission "crush" so far.

6970. clydefo - 4/14/2007 9:52:35 PM

Hahaha...bless the straight-faced pun.

...chaps me when people decked out in leather...

6971. thoughtful - 4/14/2007 10:56:11 PM

There is some evidence that vegetarians live longer than meat eaters, but I always wonder if it isn't a function of overall health consciousness or correlations with nonsmoking and such. A linkage that does make sense is dioxin. It is a very toxic carcinogen that is everywhere. It is in grasses and grains but gets concentrated in the bodies of animals that eat them, and thus more concentrated in the bodies of human meat eaters.

But for those who prefer to avoid meat, schwarzbein has also put together a meatless program that provides adequate fats and proteins.

6972. thoughtful - 4/14/2007 10:57:08 PM

clydefo, I've heard others remark on the hormones in animals leading to premature adolescence in children. Mind you one of the key carriers is milk which appears generously in your listed typical diet.

6973. thoughtful - 4/14/2007 11:09:18 PM

arky,
the thyroid board is up and running again.
go to http://www.mediboard.com/forum

They have a thyroid 101 thread that is full of good info.

6974. jexster - 4/14/2007 11:20:00 PM

My cat has hyperthyroidism...just diagnosed...another story

The Bush administration following an old Cheney/Rumsfeld practice from the Nixon years has gutted the Consumer Products Safety Commission - staff cut 50% and the Commission stocked with lobbyist and regulated industry hacks

Number of consumer goods up 50%...

The program then as now - destroy mission effectiveness, diminish stakeholder support, then close agency

6975. clydefo - 4/15/2007 12:35:16 AM

I use the organic non-fat milk. It's uncontaminated and tastes better anyway. Because of the high protein content, Pritikin sez keep total dairy under two cups a day.

6976. clydefo - 4/15/2007 12:53:29 AM

The dioxin thing makes sense. Saturated fat is one of the biggest killers. (I know, I know, a little is needed and normal). Unless eaten sparingly, metabolizing the extra protein and fat in meat for stored or burned energy burdens the system with a toxic waste ash to be removed. Hard on the liver, kidneys and the blood itself, it takes it's toll over the years.

6977. prolph - 4/15/2007 1:55:07 AM

i have long wondered if vegans reach the pearly gates to be greated by
s great green diety surrounded by maiden hair fernlike angels,

weeds, patsy

6978. judithathome - 4/15/2007 7:11:04 PM

Just saw this new gizmo on HGTV...a juicer that makes excellent juice. It looked really snazzy until they said "and for easy cleanup, the pulp container for what's left over comes with disposable bags...just pick up the bag and throw all the pulp away in one easy move!"

Which brings me to a gripe I have about juicers: you get rid of all the fiber from fresh fruits! That's why I love my VitaMixer...it makes juice, too, but it makes juice out of the entire fruit so the fiber is still ingested...pulverized into juice but still there, nonetheless. I can't say enough about how wonderful a VitaMixer is...it's pricey but I feel it has paid for itself many times over in the healthy things we get from it.

Vita Mix

6979. clydefo - 4/15/2007 7:55:23 PM

I want one, but $399 will buy a lot of vegetables. Although, maybe I've seen to many sci-fi films, but I'm getting leery of bringing "do it all" machines into the house.

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