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939. Dantheman - 2/22/2000 6:06:57 AM Ace,
Are you trying to insult Seguine and using the personal information that she's female? For shame! 940. Cellar Door - 2/22/2000 6:07:42 AM CAZ!CAZ!CAZ!CAZ!CAZ!CAZ!CAZ!
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941. AceofSpades - 2/22/2000 6:09:50 AM
And I'm not "spamming." I'm doing what people do on-line-- having fun with a fellow poster. I'm sorry I don't meet your high bar of debate.
But my exchange with Pelle has, in face, shown the unworkability of your absolutist position. I can joke with Pelle or whoever all day using "attacks" with personal information. Obviously, this is not a case for deletions or suspensions.
You counter: But wabbit knows the difference.
Yes, she does. She exercises judgment. Which makes it sort of nonsensical to write an absolutish ban when you concede, in final analysis, it won't be absolute at all, but will all swing on Wabbit's judgment.
Why not just cut out the middleman and state from the get-go that it will depend on her judgment? Why claim it's an abolute ban, but with exceptions A-ZZZ, rather than just say "it's a judgment call depending on the circumstances"?
I also find it rather odd that you would choose to insult me in the midst of THIS conversation, in particular. I won't say why. Let's say "irony" of some sort is involved. 942. bubbaette - 2/22/2000 6:12:11 AM I think that we should install little electrical touchpads in the keys of each moter's keyboard so that we can administer a small electrical shock when someone offends us. I volunteer to be in charge of administering the punishment. 943. PelleNilsson - 2/22/2000 6:13:04 AM Now, let's move this from the hypothetical to the realities here. If you are one that follows the Mote regularly, you know that some people are veryopen about who they are and about the problems they face in life. Cigarlaw is the prototype, but you and I can think of many others who have bared aspects of their life in this forum.
And have we seen these deeply personal relevations used to abuse these posters?
We have not.
And is this because a particular clause in the RoE forbids it?
It is not.
It is because when all has been said and done we are a decent lot around here.
And if anyone is out of bounds on this issue, he or she should, as PM suggests, have the head cut off and displayed at the Mote Gate. 944. Dantheman - 2/22/2000 6:14:43 AM bubbaette,
Is that a new service from the House of Wax? 945. FXMuckermind - 2/22/2000 6:14:47 AM That Cal Gal is so annoying.
OK Wabbit is a girl? That explains a lot!
Irony of some sort is involved.Not that I think the idiots here will get it.
Even I can see that, and I don't know much about the background here at all.
946. ChristiPeters - 2/22/2000 6:14:53 AM Well, it was an interesting discussion.
However, once something's been beat to death, why not have fun.
BAN ACE!! He doesn't use Purple font often enough! He MUST be EVIL!!! 947. bubbaette - 2/22/2000 6:15:11 AM or should have his butt waxed and buffed. 948. PelleNilsson - 2/22/2000 6:17:21 AM Swedish Ripper?
Ban Seguine! 949. AceofSpades - 2/22/2000 6:17:56 AM
The other problem with Seg's absolute ban is this:
Some of us argue from authority. Spuddy Boy claims he knows a bunch o' stuff on account that he's one of them big-city reporters; I have, sadly, occassionally told people I knew what the law was better than they because I'm a lawyer.
The natural rejoinder is: But reporters are idiots. But you're a BAD lawyer.
Unworkable. 950. PelleNilsson - 2/22/2000 6:19:12 AM Let it rest. 951. Toenails - 2/22/2000 6:19:29 AM
Pretty sensible...for a Swede. 952. AceofSpades - 2/22/2000 6:19:52 AM
The obvious way to defeat an argument from authority is to demolish the authority himself, impugning his intellect and/or credentials by ridiculing them, most often using "personal information."
I say I'm a lawyer and I know X Law. SpuddyBoy counters: But you're an INSURANCE lawyer, and a bad one at that.
This is perfectly fair for SpuddyBoy to do. Indeed, my assertion more or less DEMANDED he make this sort of insult. 953. CalGal - 2/22/2000 6:26:59 AM Seguine,
What matters is what promotes the interests of the forum while maintaining room for heated debate. I believe my proposal does this. Your interpretive latitude re the current rules, I believe, shortchanges the forum.
I am all for promoting the interests of the forum. One of the things I think essential to this forum is an atmosphere that does not encourage whining. Any rule that gives members the right to run complaining to Wabbit because of information they provided on this forum was used in a manner not to their liking is not in the interest of this forum, in my opinion.
Take the recent case with Pelle and Ace. Yes, they were kidding. So how would a newbie know when it was okay to use personal information? Oh, if you're joking, it's okay. But if you're serious and trying to be nasty, it's a bad thing.
But both uses of it involve "scouring Home and Garden" to find personal information. It's just how you use it. And who complains.
The interpretative latitude doesn't shortchange the forum. Wabbit could be far more ruthless if she deemed it necessary, and the rules support her if she needs the leeway.
954. Dusty - 2/22/2000 6:38:00 AM PelleNilsson
And have we seen these deeply personal relevations used to abuse these posters?
We have not.
Sorry, Pelle, a very heart-felt post, and I wish I could agree with you, but it isn't true. As I can personally attest.
It is because when all has been said and done we are a decent lot around here.
Generally, usually, almost always. But there are exceptions. Painful ones. 955. Cellar Door - 2/22/2000 6:38:13 AM I say I'm a lawyer
I say I'm a lawyer
I say "I'm a lawyer"
I SAY I'm a lawyer
I say I'm a lawyer 956. bubbaette - 2/22/2000 6:44:51 AM I say! I'm a lawyer. 957. Absensia - 2/22/2000 6:46:09 AM Me too! 958. CalGal - 2/22/2000 6:46:28 AM I say that if someone doesn't remind me of the name of that damn cartoon character, I'm going to go nuts. The rooster. what the hell is his name?
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