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9441. concerned - 3/27/2012 6:31:55 AM Or anarchists.... 9442. concerned - 3/27/2012 6:35:41 AM Of course, if you don't care if the economy collapses, you have to give up any presumption of ethical superiority, since you are advocating a great deal of law of the jungle dog eat dog suffering among millions of US citizens. Be honest and admit that you are at best being very thoughtless and stupid (= 'useful idiot') or quite possibly totally amoral. 9443. judithathome - 3/27/2012 7:22:14 PM Way to encourage civil discoure. 9444. concerned - 3/27/2012 8:04:59 PM Sorry, but it's difficult to express how frustrated I am by all this. There seems to be virtually no willingness by the Left to accept that current governmental spending policies are putting the whole country in a very bad place and that our descendents will have to pick up the pieces - whatever is left of them.
Increasing taxes has virtually reached the point of negative returns - less, not more, revenue is the most likely result of further tax increases, along with further stifling of the private sector.
Also, don't forget that the ever more fashionable Marxism among Lefties has not ever got along at all with the existence of a middle class or especially entrepreneurs - a middle class that is also the linchpin of the US economy.
In the Soviet Union, the kulaks who roughly corresponded to US entrepreneurs (in a very small way - their actual per capita resources amounted to $100 - $200) were declared to be 'enemies of the state', with the Politburo in 1930 voting for their extermination as a class. Most of them wound up in gulags or in Siberia. 9445. concerned - 3/27/2012 8:16:46 PM Who was considered a Kulak?
From Wikipedia:
In May 1929, the Sovnarkom issued a decree that formalised the notion of "kulak household" (кулацкое хозяйство). Any of the following defined a kulak:
use of hired labor
ownership of a mill, a creamery (маслобойня, butter-making rig), other processing equipment, or a complex machine with a mechanical motor
systematic renting out of agricultural equipment or facilities
involvement in trade, money-lending, commercial brokerage, or "other sources of non-labor income".
and:
Often local officials were assigned minimum quotas of kulaks to identify, and were forced to use their discretionary powers to "find" kulaks wherever they could. This led to many cases in which a farmer who employed only his sons, or any family that had a metal roof on their house, was labelled as kulaks and deported. The same fate was the end of those labeled as podkulachniks (подкулачник), so-called "kulak helpers".
A new wave of persecution against "ex-kulaks" was started in 1937. It was part of the Great Purge, conducted by Nikolai Yezhov after the NKVD Order no. 00447. Those deemed ex-kulaks were either executed or sent to labor camps. With few rich or middle-class peasants left to arrest, to satisfy the conviction quotas demanded by Stalin and Yezhov the NKVD terrorized more of the peasantry to induce more denunciations. In the wave of round-ups that followed, the term 'kulak' lost its previous distinction and became a general accusation (like wrecking), which could be leveled at anyone whom the troikas wished to convict. During the Great Purge, hundreds of thousands of peasants were falsely accused of being ex-kulaks and sent to the Gulag or executed based on circumstantial evidence, forged evidence or none at all.
This is the kind of thing that Marxism leads to to whichever extent.
9446. Wombat - 3/27/2012 9:26:58 PM Good thing we are not and will never be Marxist. 9447. Jenerator - 3/28/2012 4:50:04 PM Wombat - forgive me if you have alerady answered this, but what kind of work do you do? 9448. Wombat - 3/28/2012 11:38:35 PM I have been most recently doing intelligence work. 9449. concerned - 3/29/2012 12:58:07 AM Do tell! 9450. concerned - 3/29/2012 12:58:44 AM Jes' funnin! Jes' funnin! Don't want you going all Trayvon on me! 9451. vonKreedon - 6/19/2012 11:12:51 PM Apparently Mubarak is dead, or "clinically dead", after suffering a stroke, though a military spokesman denies this, saying, "He is not clinically dead as reported, but his health is deteriorating and he is in critical condition." I think he's dead, but let the conspiracy theories begin. 9452. judithathome - 6/20/2012 4:37:52 AM A Russian ship carrying weapons and equipment to Syria reversed course this afternoon.... 9453. vonKreedon - 6/20/2012 4:23:21 PM I just heard on NPR that the ship turned back because the British insurer withdrew the insurance under guidance from the British government. Nice use of soft power there.
In other news, Mubarak is not dead...yet. 9454. Wombat - 7/3/2012 1:02:13 AM How about Generalissimo Franco? He still dead? 9455. concerned - 7/13/2012 10:50:08 PM Today's Kids Inherit World Reverting To Barbarism
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I've lost count of the times I've found myself sitting at dinner next to a westernized Arab woman d'un certain age who was at college in the 50s, 60s or 70s, and listened to her tell me that back then "covering" was for wizened old biddies in upcountry villages, the Islamic equivalent of gnarled Russian babushkas. The future belonged to modern, uncovered women like her and her classmates.
The assumptions of her generation were off by 180 degrees: The female graduating class of Cairo University in the 50s looked little different from Vassar. Half-a-century later, every woman is hijabed to the hilt.
Mohammad Qayoumi, now the president of San Jose State University, recently published some photographs from the Afghanistan he grew up in: The girls in high heels and pencil skirts in the Kabul record stores of the 1960s aren't quite up to Carnaby Street cool, but they'd fit in in any HMV store in provincial England.
Half a century later, it was forbidden by law for women to feel sunlight on their face, or leave the home without male permission. Even more amazing to my female dining companions, today you see more covered women in London's East End or the Rosengård district of Malmö, Sweden than you do in Tunis or Amman.
The mistake made by virtually the entire western media during the Arab Spring was to assume that social progress is like technological progress — that, like the wheel or the internal combustion engine, women's rights and gay rights cannot be dis-invented. They can, very easily.
In Egypt, the youth who voted for the Muslim Brotherhood are more fiercely Islamic than their grandparents who backed Nassau's Revolution in 1952. In Tunisia, the young are more proscriptive than the secular old-timers who turned a blind eye to the country's bars and brothels.
In the developed world, we're told that westernization is "inevitable." "Just wait and see," say the blithely complacent inevitablists. "They haven't yet had time to westernize." But westernization is every bit as resistible in Brussels and Toronto as it's proved in Cairo and Jalalabad.
In the first ever poll of Irish Muslims, 37% said they would like Ireland to be governed by Islamic law. When the same question was put to young Irish Muslims, it was 57%.
In other words, the hope'n'change generation are less westernized than their parents. 36% of young British Muslims think the penalty for apostasy — i.e., leaving Islam — should be death. Had you asked the same question of British Muslims in 1970, I doubt the enthusiasts would have cracked double figures.
But keep pretending that it's Republicans who are retrograde when almost all Muslims lean left politically.
9456. bhelpuri - 9/1/2012 4:46:12 AM Yesterday was the first time in years I actually felt a twinge about pulling the plug on TV in our household. Would have liked to see that Clint bit live (course, at some point I'll youtube). Seems memorable Theatre American, like that rabid "spitballs" rant of a previous RNC.
But even from this distance - even only reading twits tweeting - it's obvious Romney is fundamentally unelectable even by the low standards plumbed recently by Americans. He performed his historical role yesterday for his "church" and now it is just a long and expensive dance to confirming that he was toast all along. 9457. bhelpuri - 9/1/2012 4:47:58 AM Yesterday was the first time in years I actually felt a twinge about pulling the plug on TV in our household. Would have liked to see that Clint bit live (course, at some point I'll youtube). Seems memorable Theatre American, like that rabid "spitballs" rant of a previous RNC.
But even from this distance - even only reading twits tweeting - it's obvious Romney is fundamentally unelectable even by the low standards plumbed recently by Americans. He performed his historical role yesterday for his "church" and now it is just a long and expensive dance to confirming that he was toast all along. 9458. bhelpuri - 9/1/2012 4:58:00 AM I concede that there will be ritual tension over the final outcome of the presidential election. How could there not be, with the US economy the way it is (among other grave systemic problems).
But the final analysis cannot be poll-driven. Even Americans - harried as they are by abysmally poor government management decisions since Reagan - have not been driven fully bat-shit.
The fact that a bat-shit option remains on the table is entirely due to historical accident, and a rapidly shrinking bat-shit "base" that is being rapidly eroded in plain sight, not least by irreversible demographic changes already underway. 9459. alistairconnor - 9/3/2012 3:48:36 PM The batshit factor would come back with a vengeance if Bibi gets his war. You don't re-elect a Muslim in wartime. Or batshit sentiments to that effect.
I don't believe he will, mind. But I'm sure that's the plan. 9460. vonKreedon - 9/4/2012 7:41:47 PM Bhel - I think you are quite a bit too complacent about the US electorate, particularly in the face of torrents of cash to convince them that Obama and the Dems will run their hopes and dreams into the ground given another four years. I expect Obama to lose, but have some small hope based on his '08 campaign and how he and the Dems have managed framing Romney and the Repubs so far this campaign. But still, I believe it's Romney's election to lose.
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