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44545. Wombat - 9/30/2012 3:52:48 AM Say it ain't so, Spin-boy!
Sacramento County's top elections official says she has turned over suspicious voter registration cards to the California Secretary of State's Office.
Jill LaVine, the county's registrar of voters, said her office has found widespread irregularities in cards submitted by a company hired by the Republican Party to conduct a registration drive.
Circulators working for businesswoman Monica Harris are filling out registration cards for prospective voters and asking them simply to sign their names, LaVine said.
Many county residents have called LaVine's office to complain when they found out – via a registration confirmation card sent by the county – that they were registered as Republicans when they didn't want to be, LaVine said.
Since September, Harris' circulators have turned in about 31,000 registration cards to the county. At least one-fourth of them have been thrown out because of inaccuracies, LaVine said.
The problem is happening because circulators are paid for each card they submit, LaVine said.
A person who identified himself as Harris' son at Momentum Political Services, her Sacramento company, said Harris was out of state and unavailable for comment.
Shannan Velayas, a spokeswoman for the Secretary of State's Office, said the office considers complaints to be confidential. Such complaints are investigated by the office's election fraud unit and forwarded to a county's district attorney when criminal activity is found.
LaVine said she has had problems with circulators working for Harris for years. She said her office started documenting questionable cards in September.
The cards often contain writing that is too sloppy to read, or transposed numbers.
Many of them turn out to be inaccurate – 24 percent can't be entered into the county system because of various problems on the cards themselves, LaVine said.
The county has found other irregularities when it sent out verification cards to residents. In one stretch, the county had 82 of 84 cards returned because they didn't contain a known address, she said.
About 20 people who received cards have called LaVine's office to complain that they were registered for the wrong party, she said.
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Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/05/4467558/suspicious-voter-registration.html#storylink=cpy 44546. concerned - 10/1/2012 7:30:47 AM But you just keep going after that distraction, like a turkey to glitter
You brought it up, gobbler. 44547. concerned - 10/1/2012 7:37:19 AM CNN Money Economics Panel picks Romney over 0bama 3:1
9 out of 17 picked Romney; only 3 picked 0bama.
Anybody who believes that 0bama is going to implement entitlement reform or do anything significant to reduce the deficit is deluding him or her self. 0bama hasn't done anything of the sort in nearly four years - why would he decide to change now? The choice is clear if one wants to see our beleaguered economy improve any time soon. 44548. concerned - 10/1/2012 7:38:52 AM Besides, Warren's bogus ethnic background (she can't produce any record of native American ancestry) is only one dimension of her comprehensive fraud. 44549. concerned - 10/1/2012 7:47:45 AM All this hyperbole about how Republicans are either evil or have mental deficiencies is one of the most baseless, fake concoctions and overgeneralizations I have ever run across. At best, it betrays a myopic intellectual horizon in the accuser.
What ever happened to not trashing people merely because they hold viewpoints that one happens not to agree with? 44550. judithathome - 10/1/2012 9:06:22 AM All this hyperbole about how Republicans Democrats are either evil or have mental deficiencies is one of the most baseless, fake concoctions and overgeneralizations I have ever run across. At best, it betrays a myopic intellectual horizon in the accuser.
What ever happened to not trashing people merely because they hold viewpoints that one happens not to agree with?
44551. Wombat - 10/1/2012 4:09:17 PM Amazing, Spin-boy. Did you check the headline on your link? 44552. Wombat - 10/1/2012 4:21:55 PM From American Enterpirise Institute fellow J.D. Kleinke:
"Perhaps the clearest indication of the conservative economic values underlying the act is its reception by many Democrats. The plan has few champions on the left precisely because it is not a government takeover of health care. It is not a single-payer system, nor “Medicare for all”; it does not include a “public option,” a health plan offered by a federal insurer. It is a ratification of market ideas, modified to address problems unique to health insurance.
Mr. Obama’s plan, which should be a darling of the right for these principles, was abandoned not for its content, but rather for politics. Neither side is blameless here. The White House could not have been more ham-fisted in the way it rammed the bill through Congress. The Republicans in the House and Senate lashed back with a vengeance, sifting through the legislative colossus for boogeymen like “death panels,” and when they could not find things sufficiently alarmist, they simply invented them.
Clear away all the demagogy and scare tactics, and Obamacare is, at its core, Romneycare across state lines. But today’s Republicans dare not own anything built on principles of economic conservatism, if it also protects one of the four horsemen of the social conservatives’ apocalypse: coverage for the full spectrum of women’s reproductive health, from birth control to abortion.
Social conservatives’ hostility to the health care act is a natural corollary to their broader agenda of controlling women’s bodies. These are not the objections of traditional “conservatives,” but of agitators for prying, invasive government — the very things they project, erroneously, onto the workings of the president’s plan. Decrying the legislation for interfering in the doctor-patient relationship, while seeking to pass grossly intrusive laws involving the OB-GYN-patient relationship, is one of the more bizarre disconnects in American politics.
Obamacare draws fire from this segment of “conservatives” because it fortifies the other side in their holy war. Coverage for birth control and abortion has not been introduced by the law; but it has been neutralized economically across all health plans, as part of the plan’s systemic effort to streamline fragmented health insurance markets and coverage.
The real problem with the health care plan — for Mr. Romney and the Republicans in general — is that political credit for it goes to Mr. Obama. Now, Mr. Romney is in a terrible fix trying to spin his way out of this paradox and tear down something he knows is right — something for which he ought to be taking great political credit of his own.
44553. Wombat - 10/1/2012 4:24:08 PM Spin-boy forgets that some of Obamacare's alleged unpopularity (about one-third of those polled) is that it doesn't go far enough. However it is something to build on. 44554. concerned - 10/1/2012 5:41:10 PM Nice pipe dreams excerpt from Kleinke, Spin Psycho. It wasn't 'Republicans' who coined the term 'death panels', it was Ann Coulter, if I recall correctly.
And it wasn't 'Republicans' who approved Romneycare, it was the voters of the heavily Democrat state Massachusetts. And Romneycare has generally failed to meet its goals to either reduce costs or improve the quality of care in Massachusetts - in fact both have become worse as a whole.
Here's an excerpt from a recent article in Politico:
But some who are closely watching Massachusetts are more candid about it — and they say it has some serious problems.
“The reality is it performed very poorly,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former Congressional Budget Office director and president of the American Action Forum. He’s one of the most vocal critics of the plan. “A huge mark against it is it didn’t control health care costs at all.”
Health care costs per capita were 27 percent higher in Massachusetts than in the rest of the country in 2004, two years before the state plan was signed, Holtz-Eakin says. By 2009, it was 30 percent higher than the national average.
The law’s failure to rein in health care costs is widely acknowledged by nonpartisan analysts, as well as conservative critics. But there’s more material for critics to work with if either party wanted to use it. For example, emergency room use has gone up, not down — undermining the law’s effort to get that problem under control by expanding coverage.
State health policy officials issued a report last month showing a 6 percent increase in emergency room use from 2006 to 2010, the first four years when the law was in effect. That figure has confounded proponents of the law, who hoped emergency room care would plummet when residents had access to insurance and primary-care doctors.
Detractors in the Bay State also say the law has done little to dent the surging demand seen by the state’s largest safety-net hospitals.
It’s getting harder for Massachusetts residents to see a doctor, too. A report released last month by the Massachusetts Medical Society found that only half of the state’s primary-care providers are accepting new patients, down from 70 percent in 2007. And the average wait time to see a doctor in family medicine is 45 days — up from 34 days in 2007.
And notice the funny little numbers in my excerpt that your excerpt strangely has none of, Psycho. They're called comparative statistics. They show that Romneycare is caused both health costs and wait times to go up. So when you argue that 0bamacare doesn't go far enough, have you considered that maybe it's going in the wrong direction in the first place?
Here's a clue for you, Spin Psycho. The author of your propaganda piece regularly conflates individuals and groups (most particularly Republicans), an unfortunate tendency of self-blinded Lefties, and you apparently have been sucked in by the result. 44555. concerned - 10/1/2012 5:43:33 PM ...Romneycare has.... 44556. Wombat - 10/1/2012 5:55:22 PM Spin-boy, you do know that the American Enterprise Institute is a Conservative/Libertarian think-tank? Probably not...
You think Ann Coulter is not a Republican? She is certainly deranged enough to be one. 44557. Wombat - 10/1/2012 5:59:36 PM Spin Psycho, eh? Typical Concerned. You are the master of psychological projection, and always have been. Look at it this way: in 2008 I called you "Demented" in the run-up to the election. "Spin-boy" is actually a promotion for you.
You might also want to look at the second page of the Politico article you quoted from. Probably didn't make it that far. 44558. concerned - 10/1/2012 6:03:19 PM Going to say Politico is Republican next, Spin Psycho?
Btw, the title of the piece is: "Big ‘Romneycare’ secret: It didn’t rein in costs"
That pesky saying 'insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result' just keeps biting you Lefties in the ass, doesn't it Spin Psycho?
44559. concerned - 10/1/2012 6:08:23 PM Yeah, right. Romneycare costs. wait times and emergency room usage are all up. What's not to like if one is a looney? And where did you get the American Enterprise Institute from, Spin Psycho? 44560. Wombat - 10/1/2012 6:10:58 PM You're right, Spin-boy:
Insisting again and again that tax cuts and deregulation will stimulate the economy fits that description. 44561. Wombat - 10/1/2012 6:12:54 PM The problem with you, Spin-boy, is that you wouldn't recognize an actual conservative if one bit you on the ass. 44562. concerned - 10/1/2012 7:23:19 PM Re. 44560 -
...tax cuts and deregulation will stimulate the economy...
If you knew anything about economic history, you'd realize that the above is one of the truest economic statements you could make, Spin Psycho. Look, for instance, at the 1920's, early 1960's, 1980's and most of the last decade. That's 4 separate concrete examples of how smart tax cutting and not overregulating industry to death works.
Only someone grossly ignorant of basic economics and/or blinded by partisan ideology would not find the above persuasive. 44563. concerned - 10/1/2012 7:25:02 PM I don't think there would be any way to verify her (warrens) ethnic background to any goper's satisfaction .
What a ridiculous statement. There are all sorts of genealogical research options to determine such things. 44564. judithathome - 10/1/2012 10:49:10 PM Has anyone heard from Pelle lately? Anyone know how to contact him? He's been gone fron his forum at AbleMindfs for a few months and no one can get in touch with him.
He paid for his forum for another year...but hasn't shown up there in ages. People are concerned about his health...
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